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> 912 vs. 944 Turbo vs. 930? Your input sought?, Contemplating another option-away from -6; your thoughts?
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post Jan 3 2014, 02:39 AM
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So…I am contemplating the next purchase… not in a rush.. the right deal at the right time…. heck…I may even go for a 1974 GTV Alfa Romeo--a whole different story!

I love the following three models:

All 912 coupe models (Ideally, Red, Silver, light blue, or the weird mustard color)
The 1989 930 (turbo) (Ideally Silver, Red, black)
The 1989 944 Turbo (S) (Ideally Red, Silver, Yellow)

Of course, they are all in different price ranges… so my interest is to get one of the above for fun, daily/weekend driver/ semi restored (I dont want to work on the cars too much aside from regular maintenance or basic work) and I do believe the wife will want to drive it more than the -6.

As I know how critical this group is, I would love to hear the pros/cons on the above models.

I pretty much have my mind made up, but want to check with the peanut gallery to see if I am in the right path… (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

If you are aware of a car for sale within the above types, I welcome also the lead--PM me or email me.


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post Jan 3 2014, 09:26 PM
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I've owned an '89 944 Turbo and an Alfa 2000. The 944 was the best car I've ever owned. The Alfa, not so much.

I put over 120,000 km on the T while I owned it and then sold it to a mate who still drives it. It now has over 200,000 on the clock and still goes like stink. I left it bog stock and always over maintained it. Oil changes every 7500k, cam belts every 40,000k etc. Blew a head gasket for no reason at around 80,000k so while I was there I replaced the belt, water pump, valve guides, springs and fitted an aftermarket wide ring gasket, not cheap. I could only imagine what that would cost these days, back in '94 it was close to $5000.

Replaced a clutch once and the sump gasket too, both major jobs. Despite the expense of ownership you have to spend a lot more to get the same performance out of a 911.

You can drive them off boost and fuel consumption is like any other 4 cylinder, around 30-35mpg and your grandma could drive it. Stomp on it however and the beast is unleashed.

The friend who bought it off me has since chipped it, added a billet waste gate and a couple of other slight mods and it's punching out 300+hp at the wheels.

The Alfa rusted worse than any 914 and bits fell off it left and right including the steering rack bolts dropping out. Fun to drive and very well balanced but not nearly enough engine performance so you have flog the crap out of them. The gear shift is less than precise, clutch slave cylinders are notorious for failure, as are drive shaft donuts and they rust in places other cars don't, like the tops of the doors and roof sills.

Buy a 944 T only (or any Turbo Porsche) if you can find an unmolested one with low miles and full history and can justify the expense of maintenance. If you can, then these are one the best cars ever built.
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post Jan 3 2014, 10:32 PM
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I've owned an '89 944 Turbo and an Alfa 2000. The 944 was the best car I've ever owned. The Alfa, not so much.

I put over 120,000 km on the T while I owned it and then sold it to a mate who still drives it. It now has over 200,000 on the clock and still goes like stink. I left it bog stock and always over maintained it. Oil changes every 7500k, cam belts every 40,000k etc. Blew a head gasket for no reason at around 80,000k so while I was there I replaced the belt, water pump, valve guides, springs and fitted an aftermarket wide ring gasket, not cheap. I could only imagine what that would cost these days, back in '94 it was close to $5000.

Replaced a clutch once and the sump gasket too, both major jobs. Despite the expense of ownership you have to spend a lot more to get the same performance out of a 911.

You can drive them off boost and fuel consumption is like any other 4 cylinder, around 30-35mpg and your grandma could drive it. Stomp on it however and the beast is unleashed.

The friend who bought it off me has since chipped it, added a billet waste gate and a couple of other slight mods and it's punching out 300+hp at the wheels.

The Alfa rusted worse than any 914 and bits fell off it left and right including the steering rack bolts dropping out. Fun to drive and very well balanced but not nearly enough engine performance so you have flog the crap out of them. The gear shift is less than precise, clutch slave cylinders are notorious for failure, as are drive shaft donuts and they rust in places other cars don't, like the tops of the doors and roof sills.

Buy a 944 T only (or any Turbo Porsche) if you can find an unmolested one with low miles and full history and can justify the expense of maintenance. If you can, then these are one the best cars ever built.



Awesome feedback--got it.. i am probably sticking to the porsche gang for now...
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R8CERX   912 vs. 944 Turbo vs. 930? Your input sought?   Jan 3 2014, 02:39 AM
ehokana   I can't speak for the 930 or 912, but I just s...   Jan 3 2014, 04:59 AM
R8CERX   I can't speak for the 930 or 912, but I just ...   Jan 3 2014, 05:27 AM
ehokana   Glad to help! Everyone on here has helped me ...   Jan 3 2014, 06:01 AM
billh1963   As you mention, there is dramatic difference in pr...   Jan 3 2014, 07:42 AM
infraredcalvin   If you've never driven a turbo, either 951 or ...   Jan 3 2014, 09:18 AM
ww914   If you've never driven a turbo, either 951 or...   Jan 3 2014, 09:36 AM
Andyrew   Well, the 944 turbo is one of my most favorite car...   Jan 3 2014, 09:45 AM
Mark Henry   930 bring money and it's hard to find one that...   Jan 3 2014, 10:05 AM
Dave_Darling   The 912 will be pretty well balanced, with limited...   Jan 3 2014, 10:14 AM
jfort   I've had a series of 911's (the latest a 7...   Jan 3 2014, 10:21 AM
Spoke   Can't say much about a 912 or 951, but I'v...   Jan 3 2014, 11:05 AM
ernestj911@gmail.com   I say go 930. The only problem with the 89 930 is ...   Jan 3 2014, 11:56 AM
rudedude   My wife much prefers the comfort of the 79 turbo o...   Jan 3 2014, 02:35 PM
Seabird   I am going to be the odd voice in the room. I jus...   Jan 3 2014, 03:01 PM
Maltese Falcon   My GTV wont be coming up for sale any time, eve...   Jan 4 2014, 12:26 AM
Seabird   Miguel, awesome twin plug Alfa...never seen one...   Jan 4 2014, 08:57 AM
R8CERX   The 928 trio--nice, but not my cup of tea--all aut...   Jan 5 2014, 01:25 AM
JamesM   I love the following three models: All 912 coupe...   Jan 3 2014, 03:58 PM
gothspeed   Go 930 ....... I had one, they are very easily ...   Jan 3 2014, 04:21 PM
R8CERX   Thank you much for the good feedback and all the m...   Jan 3 2014, 04:44 PM
396   I vote for the 930. Once you experience the power...   Jan 3 2014, 05:15 PM
jim912928   May I suggest another model to check out?....it is...   Jan 3 2014, 06:09 PM
R8CERX   May I suggest another model to check out?....it i...   Jan 3 2014, 06:53 PM
tumamilhem   May I suggest another model to check out?....it i...   Jan 3 2014, 11:24 PM
carr914   968   Jan 3 2014, 07:56 PM
infraredcalvin   968 I've always been drawn to them as they a...   Jan 4 2014, 12:30 AM
phillstek   I've owned an '89 944 Turbo and an Alfa 20...   Jan 3 2014, 09:26 PM
R8CERX   I've owned an '89 944 Turbo and an Alfa 2...   Jan 3 2014, 10:32 PM
oldschool   I really like driving my 2.0, But one of my best c...   Jan 3 2014, 10:54 PM
tumamilhem   I feel if you already have a 914, don't bother...   Jan 3 2014, 11:30 PM
tumamilhem   1986 944 - $7500 Looks to be in nice conditi...   Jan 3 2014, 11:36 PM
Maltese Falcon   The early '76-'79 930 market is reaching 6...   Jan 4 2014, 12:18 AM
tumamilhem   The early '76-'79 930 market is reaching ...   Jan 4 2014, 01:04 AM
carr914   I always thought that my 944S2 was much nicer than...   Jan 4 2014, 05:45 AM
euro911   My dream 912 would have to be an early SWB, Bahama...   Jan 4 2014, 06:12 AM
914junkie   1989-91 944 S2 or 968 are great alternatives to a ...   Jan 5 2014, 06:19 AM
carr914   All of the above cars are in FLORIDA!! ...   Jan 5 2014, 07:15 AM
R8CERX   :idea: …no   Jan 5 2014, 07:41 AM
tumamilhem   Yes I prefer manual as well. Didn't know if yo...   Jan 5 2014, 08:06 AM
somd914   Perhaps I missed it, but my question is why are yo...   Jan 5 2014, 08:21 AM


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