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> Speedometer upgrade, No more broken cables or angle drives
ClayPerrine
post Feb 12 2014, 02:47 PM
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I found something online that I wanted to try:

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I bought one and wired it to my factory 911 speedometer.

I wired it like this:

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The white wires are from a 12v DC transformer, used to bench test it. The Positive is on the left, and the negative is on the right. The Autometer module is wired to the same positive and negative lugs, and the purple wire from the Autometer is connected to the speedo input. The other speedo input is jumped to ground.

Running the calibration procedure in a bench test, found here , I was able to get the speedo to read exactly 80 mph, and the odometer was working too.

The next step is to test it in a vehicle.

The heavy wires from the positive and negative go to an old cigarette lighter plug that I will use to test it in my truck, comparing the output with the truck's speedo, and my android app "gps speedometer".

If everything works as I expect, I can remove the speedo cable and angle drive from my car. I will probably plug the speedo output in the gearbox to prevent any gear oil leaks.

I will update this when I run the second test.



I will keep you updated on the results.
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post Feb 12 2014, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(struckn @ Feb 12 2014, 05:38 PM) *

Not sure I understand how it would work with a stock 914 Speedometer. Isn't it a mechanical gear driven device needing the cable to operate.

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Yes, a stock 914 speedometer is mechanical. A later model 911 speedometer is electronic. It uses a disk with magnets on the side of the differential inside the transmission, and a "puck" (aka a coil of wire) to generate a small pulse of electricity when the magnets pass by. That is sent to the speedometer, where it is interpreted by the electronics to indicate the speed of the car.

I replace the puck and the wiring with the GPS box. The GPS box output sends a pulse to the speedometer. Grounding the other side of the signal input gives it a full circuit, and the speedometer responds just like it was hooked to the puck.


Update: I took the test rig out in the truck this evening. I put the GPS antenna on top of the dash, and the speedometer in the trash can pointing up. It worked! I realized that the transformer I used in the house to calibrate it may not have contained a full wave rectifier, and that induced pulses into the speedometer. It affected the calibration.. it was off by 2 mph. The update was as smooth and as quick as a standard cable operated speedometer. The only drawback is that if you jump in and take off real quick, the GPS box needs a couple of seconds to find the satellites, so the speedometer will appear dead for 15 seconds. Then it jumps up to the proper speed.

When I built the wiring harness for my dash, I included power and ground wires for an electronic speedometer. So this weekend I will be installing it into my car, and removing the speedometer cable and angle drive.

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ClayPerrine   Speedometer upgrade   Feb 12 2014, 02:47 PM
timothy_nd28   :popcorn:   Feb 12 2014, 02:52 PM
flipb   I drive my DD every day with the speed showing in ...   Feb 12 2014, 03:05 PM
ClayPerrine   There are very few tunnels in my area. And I can ...   Feb 12 2014, 03:10 PM
Dave_Darling   Please tell me you'll use a better crimper for...   Feb 12 2014, 04:29 PM
ThePaintedMan   Interesting, but does that mean the trip meter is ...   Feb 12 2014, 04:30 PM
ClayPerrine   Please tell me you'll use a better crimper fo...   Feb 12 2014, 04:36 PM
monkeyboy   I have been discussing this for a while with Tim.....   Feb 12 2014, 04:42 PM
ClayPerrine   I have been discussing this for a while with Tim....   Feb 12 2014, 05:01 PM
struckn   Not sure I understand how it would work with a sto...   Feb 12 2014, 05:38 PM
monkeyboy   I have been discussing this for a while with Tim...   Feb 13 2014, 01:08 PM
pcar916   This is really neat. I've been using the ...   Feb 12 2014, 06:23 PM
ClayPerrine   Not sure I understand how it would work with a st...   Feb 12 2014, 08:41 PM
ConeDodger   Nice Clay :first: can you please define "late...   Feb 12 2014, 08:48 PM
Krieger   Could you hook it up to a HUD?   Feb 12 2014, 08:52 PM
ClayPerrine   Nice Clay :first: can you please define "lat...   Feb 12 2014, 09:48 PM
rmdinmd   my 914 came with this when I bought it. It is...   Feb 13 2014, 02:36 PM
Madswede   I've outrun the GPS speedo app on my iPhone. ...   Feb 13 2014, 05:42 PM
mikesmith   I've outrun the GPS speedo app on my iPhone. ...   Feb 14 2014, 11:34 AM
ClayPerrine   I ran around all day today with it in my truck. I...   Feb 13 2014, 07:28 PM
Chris H.   Thanks you just saved me a lot of time...   Feb 14 2014, 11:52 AM
ClayPerrine   Just an update on this project. I got it all hook...   Mar 4 2014, 05:26 PM
ChrisNPDrider   Nice work! :beer2:   Mar 4 2014, 06:09 PM
rick 918-S   :ttiwwp: Let's see it in the dash. Can you ...   Aug 14 2024, 11:21 AM
ClayPerrine   I will have to hunt one down. Right now my dash i...   Aug 15 2024, 02:59 PM
ClayPerrine   This is before I sent the speedo out to have it re...   Aug 15 2024, 03:04 PM
ClayPerrine   And this is the speedo today. I just took it 5 min...   Aug 15 2024, 03:13 PM
rick 918-S   Nice!   Aug 16 2024, 05:42 AM


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