Bursch Vs. Monza / Header Systems, ...Fitting OBXes, and other header system recommendations... |
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Bursch Vs. Monza / Header Systems, ...Fitting OBXes, and other header system recommendations... |
MikeInMunich |
Feb 24 2014, 04:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 19-November 13 From: Munich, Germany Member No.: 16,674 Region Association: None |
Hi Guys,
I recently acquired a Bursch over Ebay and have an almost new Monza as well. The car is a 2.0 with OBX headers. There are three factors (that I know of) for my consideration: Looks: Monza wins Sound: Which one will sound cooler? Please post your opinions! Performance: Which will offer (slightly) better HP, if either at all? Opinions! Thanks! Mike in Munich (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge6.gif) |
'73-914kid |
Feb 24 2014, 05:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,473 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Vista, CA Member No.: 9,714 Region Association: Southern California |
How did you get an OBX header to fit on your engine? They're not even close to lining up with the exhaust ports. Also, if you have a header, the Bursch, Monza, or stock mufflers will not fit as they are designed to fit only with the factory heat exchangers.
You need to do more research. |
MikeInMunich |
Feb 28 2014, 02:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 19-November 13 From: Munich, Germany Member No.: 16,674 Region Association: None |
How did you get an OBX header to fit on your engine? They're not even close to lining up with the exhaust ports. Also, if you have a header, the Bursch, Monza, or stock mufflers will not fit as they are designed to fit only with the factory heat exchangers. You need to do more research. I thought this was going to be the case...the answer to your question, I reckon, is that it is not a 2.0 case. It's a 1.8 bored to 2.0. The headers are not on the car yet. Ed in Sun Valley is expecting it to not be a problem at all. Naturally I hope he is right. I will update and inform. If a mod is necessary he will most likely solve the problem and I will post photos. M.i.M. |
'73-914kid |
Feb 28 2014, 02:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,473 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Vista, CA Member No.: 9,714 Region Association: Southern California |
How did you get an OBX header to fit on your engine? They're not even close to lining up with the exhaust ports. Also, if you have a header, the Bursch, Monza, or stock mufflers will not fit as they are designed to fit only with the factory heat exchangers. You need to do more research. I thought this was going to be the case...the answer to your question, I reckon, is that it is not a 2.0 case. It's a 1.8 bored to 2.0. The headers are not on the car yet. Ed in Sun Valley is expecting it to not be a problem at all. Naturally I hope he is right. I will update and inform. If a mod is necessary he will most likely solve the problem and I will post photos. M.i.M. 1.8, 1.7, 2.0L, it won't matter. The OBX header was copied off of a header that was not intended to ever fit a T4 engine. It's a cheap chinese copy, and the only way to make it fit is to cut the header up and weld on custom stub pipes that a few Type 4 parts sellers have available. I only know of one person who succesfuly got the header onto their car, and that was after they welded on flanges for stub pipes and stub pipes were installed. It's going to take cutting and welding, no doubt about that. Read this: OBX header thread |
SirAndy |
Feb 28 2014, 03:10 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,815 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
It's going to take cutting and welding, no doubt about that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
MikeInMunich |
Feb 28 2014, 03:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 19-November 13 From: Munich, Germany Member No.: 16,674 Region Association: None |
I haven't spoken with Ed about it, but I reckon he would simply agree and say something like, "yeah. So?" That's not anything that would intimidate him much at all. It's not only right up his alley, but I think he actually enjoys such "challenges". I am, indeed, quite curious myself, as I am sure you guys are too, and I do hope we will be in the minority having experienced success with this endeavor. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif)
Looking forward to updating y'all when he is done. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) Love these emoticons. M.i.M. Update: From email with Ed.... "I installed a set of headers a couple years ago that used the stub pipes. We'll see if the current headers will fit in the ports well enough to work. It looks like they will. I anticipated a bit of fitting to install them. bitchbitchbitch, Not for the faint of heart." |
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