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Strange MPS issue, Lew's car |
914itis |
Apr 15 2014, 04:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
I am helping Brian with Lew's car. As most of you may know, it is a 2056 with djet.
The car was running fine, he drive it to CT one day and when he came back he noticed that the MPS was hanging. The car starts to run on 3 cylinders with #4 not firing. We checked for spark and injectors they are all fine, but if you remove spark wire #4, it had no effect. The strange thing is if you elevate the mps about 6 inches up, it's all fine, even that 4th cyl works. All the electrical wires on the unit are fine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) ? Dies the 2056 uses 1.7 or 2.0 MPS? He would like to make it to Hershey. |
Dave_Darling |
Apr 16 2014, 08:35 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,051 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
One curious thing that I found--the MPS can be sensitive to shocks and sometimes even to orientation. It is an electro-mechanical device, and the core inside it can be moved by external forces and change the mixture.
I found this out by accident with the engine idling while messing about with the MPS mounting--the sensor fell down onto the engine tin, and the engine hiccupped when it hit. Naturally, I tried it a few more times, and tried jarring it a few other ways. It was most sensitive to being hit on the end. That part was what led to the realization that the core could be moved relative to the windings by thumping on the MPS body... --DD |
achman_73_2.0 |
Apr 16 2014, 10:07 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 40 Joined: 28-October 13 From: NYC Member No.: 16,577 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
One curious thing that I found--the MPS can be sensitive to shocks and sometimes even to orientation. It is an electro-mechanical device, and the core inside it can be moved by external forces and change the mixture. I found this out by accident with the engine idling while messing about with the MPS mounting--the sensor fell down onto the engine tin, and the engine hiccupped when it hit. Naturally, I tried it a few more times, and tried jarring it a few other ways. It was most sensitive to being hit on the end. That part was what led to the realization that the core could be moved relative to the windings by thumping on the MPS body... --DD Hey Dave This all started when I came home from a drive to NJ and popped the engine cover and found the MPS laying in the engine compartment on the tin. It had been jury-rig mounted and came off...but the car ran fine. issues started when I remounted correctly. So is the MPS toast? |
Dave_Darling |
Apr 16 2014, 05:08 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,051 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
This all started when I came home from a drive to NJ and popped the engine cover and found the MPS laying in the engine compartment on the tin. It had been jury-rig mounted and came off...but the car ran fine. issues started when I remounted correctly. So is the MPS toast? No idea! I don't think the core inside the MPS should be able to get to where it won't move unless the MPS body is in a certain orientation, but it may be possible. Do you have access to another MPS for testing purposes? --DD |
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