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> Seing double?, Now tested double D-jet performance!
larss
post Jan 10 2014, 01:35 AM
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Anybody tried double D-jet air boxes and TB before?

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post May 5 2014, 01:33 PM
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What about just using the 2.0 plenum? it is larger, then just add the 2.0 throttle body. I don't know the size difference between the 1.7 and 2.0 throttle bodies.
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post May 5 2014, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(Olympic 1.7 @ May 5 2014, 09:33 PM) *

What about just using the 2.0 plenum? it is larger, then just add the 2.0 throttle body. I don't know the size difference between the 1.7 and 2.0 throttle bodies.


Yes thats a good idea, I think many have done that on 1911cc's. Best would be to use the larger 2.0 intake pipes also (and heads of course).
I just happened to have another 1.7 d-jet plenum and throttle body and wanted to make a test.

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post May 5 2014, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(larss @ May 5 2014, 11:43 AM) *

QUOTE(Olympic 1.7 @ May 5 2014, 09:33 PM) *

What about just using the 2.0 plenum? it is larger, then just add the 2.0 throttle body. I don't know the size difference between the 1.7 and 2.0 throttle bodies.


Yes thats a good idea, I think many have done that on 1911cc's. Best would be to use the larger 2.0 intake pipes also (and heads of course).
I just happened to have another 1.7 d-jet plenum and throttle body and wanted to make a test.

/Lars S



Neat to see that you actually got a power increase from the larger TB area. I increased the size of the TB on my latest build as well but was not sure if it made any difference. I have run a 1.7 plenum/TB/Runners on a 2.0 before and it definitely restricts the power. From what I recall (and don't quote me on this)

1.7 TB ~37mm (also smaller runners and much smaller plenum)
1.8 TB ~45mm (same size runners as 2.0)
2.0TB ~46mm (largest stock TB, same size runners as a 1.8 but intake layout causes turbulence. Also 3 bolt runners vs 1.7 and 1.8 4 bolt)


The 2.0 intake requires a bit of hacking to fit on a 1.7, and still has its problems.

My solution, still looks stock and gets you a total throttle plate area pretty close to what you get with dual 1.7s, and also you keep equal length runners with the larger diameter.



1.8 plenum with the TB opening stretched to 52MM, + modified 50MM vanagon TB:
total throttle plate area 1962mm^2

on top of a 2056, does not seem to be lacking for air on the top end at all

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larss   Seing double?   Jan 10 2014, 01:35 AM
Racer Chris   Mine's a little different than what your pictu...   Jan 10 2014, 07:42 AM
larss   Mine's a little different than what your pict...   Jan 10 2014, 08:34 AM
Racer Chris   any D-jet tuning tips to make double TB's wor...   Jan 10 2014, 11:17 AM
brant   We have a racer out here running 4 diet throttle b...   Jan 10 2014, 07:55 AM
larss   Thanks! I thought of making the linkage so tha...   Jan 10 2014, 12:04 PM
Racer Chris   Thanks! I thought of making the linkage so th...   Jan 10 2014, 12:11 PM
AE354803   Anybody tried double D-jet air boxes and TB befor...   Jan 10 2014, 01:26 PM
larss   [quote name='larss' post='1981369' date='Jan 9 20...   Jan 12 2014, 07:30 AM
Brian Mifsud   So what do you gain with Double Throttle Bodies an...   Jan 10 2014, 04:11 PM
larss   So what do you gain with Double Throttle Bodies a...   Jan 10 2014, 11:25 PM
r_towle   I am in love with this hack. Please explain why an...   Jan 10 2014, 08:55 PM
ClayPerrine   Why not split two plenums down the middle at the s...   Jan 12 2014, 08:31 AM
r_towle   Why not split two plenums down the middle at the ...   Jan 12 2014, 09:10 AM
larss   Why not split two plenums down the middle at the...   Jan 12 2014, 11:11 AM
larss   Why not split two plenums down the middle at the ...   Jan 12 2014, 11:14 AM
ChrisNPDrider   I am still curious as to why someone would do thi...   Jan 12 2014, 11:02 AM
MrLeeS   Neat idea, but I don't see any benefit in your...   Jan 12 2014, 11:53 AM
larss   Neat idea, but I don't see any benefit in you...   Jan 12 2014, 12:00 PM
AE354803   Neat idea, but I don't see any benefit in yo...   Jan 12 2014, 02:53 PM
larss   At last, after running in my new 1911 Engine I hav...   May 5 2014, 07:51 AM
ChrisNPDrider   Cool! Thanks for sharing :beer2: I'll ad...   May 5 2014, 09:37 AM
Dr Evil   This is fricken cool :) Good on you for trying thi...   May 5 2014, 10:53 AM
larss   This is fricken cool :) .... The volume of your ...   May 5 2014, 11:00 AM
Olympic 1.7   What about just using the 2.0 plenum? it is larger...   May 5 2014, 01:33 PM
larss   What about just using the 2.0 plenum? it is large...   May 5 2014, 01:43 PM
JamesM   What about just using the 2.0 plenum? it is larg...   May 5 2014, 04:35 PM
larss   Good ideas JamesM! How do you match the vanag...   May 5 2014, 10:47 PM
JamesM   Good ideas JamesM! How do you match the vana...   May 6 2014, 11:12 AM
larss   Thanks JamesM! Are we talking about a TB type...   May 6 2014, 11:34 AM
JamesM   Thanks JamesM! Are we talking about a TB typ...   May 6 2014, 05:27 PM
JamesM   Thanks JamesM! Are we talking about a TB ty...   May 6 2014, 05:45 PM
larss   Thanks JamesM! /Lars S   May 6 2014, 10:44 PM


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