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> Turning a modified 914-6 back close to original, Are the upgrades worth anything?
dw914six
post Sep 3 2014, 08:07 PM
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I own 2 914-6 (authentic) cars. 1 is slightly modified with some upgrades to make it more usable and perform a bit better.

My other car (Big Red) is a highly modified 1970 914-6 (in GT form). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) I have always wanted to pull off the upgrades and put the original engine back in, etc. This car currently is running a 911 3.6 twin plug from a 964. Below is a list of some upgrades.

• Porsche 964 engine
• 50mm PMO Webers
• Electromotive twin-plug crank fire ignition
• Aase RSR valve springs, titanium retainers
• Web Euro-spec camshafts
• Patrick Motorsports Jet-hot coated racing headers and sport muffler
• 901 side-shift gear box with 904 main shaft and short gears
• MOMO competizione shift knob
• Automation billet aluminum intermediate plate
• 225mm Patrick Motorsports lightweight clutch
• Patrick Motorsport RSR aluminum flywheel
• Quaiffe LSD and billet side-plates
• Automotion solid transmission mounts
• B&B 930 front mounted engine oil cooler with thermostat
• 911SC front suspension with aluminum cross brace
• Porsche (Big Red) Twin Turbo front and rear brakes
• Pagid racing brake pads
• 23mm Gun-drilled front torsion bars
• 930 tie rods
• Charley front sway bar
• Porsche Factory rear sway bar
• Porsche RSR threaded front Bilstein struts and sport valve shocks
• Eibach rear coil over springs
• Automotion adjustable monoball upper strut mounts
• Poly-graphite suspension bushings
• 19mm Master cylinder
• Kinesis 17 X 8 and 17 X 9 ½ three piece racing wheels (polished)
• Fresh Goodyear Eagle F1 tires
• 914-6GT chassis stiffening kit
• 914-6GT boxed rear suspension
• Porsche Factory GT precision butt-welded steel flares
• Composite front and rear deck lids
• Factory GT composite racing seats
• MOMO prototipo steering wheel
• SPA fire system
• Porsche Factory fuel tank with Patrick Motorsports fuel – safe cell
• Martin Baker vintage exterior fuel cap
• New factory interior
• Bell seat belts
• Rennline Pedal box
• Adjustable brake bias with hydraulic e brake
• Racing mirrors

Pretty insane build back in the day. According to the PO, the build had over $125,000 in costs and upgrades. I've never priced them out, but I will say there is a lot of great work. The car is rock solid in itself.

Rebuilding the original 2.0 would cost some money, as would removing and replacing many other parts to bring it back close to original.

If the 3.6 engine and all of the performance parts were taken off, is there a market for it. I am just trying to gauge the market to see if my restoration cost could be offset with the sale of the parts. I simply do not know that space well.

Any guesses?

My other avenue might be a very reputable restoration shop (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) who would do the makeover in exchange for all of the parts. Could be a deal for someone. But I win too as my 914-6 is more valuable in original build.

Thanks.
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QUOTE(dw914six @ Sep 3 2014, 06:07 PM) *

I own 2 914-6 (authentic) cars. 1 is slightly modified with some upgrades to make it more usable and perform a bit better.

My other car (Big Red) is a highly modified 1970 914-6 (in GT form). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) I have always wanted to pull off the upgrades and put the original engine back in, etc. This car currently is running a 911 3.6 twin plug from a 964. Below is a list of some upgrades.

• Porsche 964 engine
• 50mm PMO Webers
• Electromotive twin-plug crank fire ignition
• Aase RSR valve springs, titanium retainers
• Web Euro-spec camshafts
• Patrick Motorsports Jet-hot coated racing headers and sport muffler
• 901 side-shift gear box with 904 main shaft and short gears
• MOMO competizione shift knob
• Automation billet aluminum intermediate plate
• 225mm Patrick Motorsports lightweight clutch
• Patrick Motorsport RSR aluminum flywheel
• Quaiffe LSD and billet side-plates
• Automotion solid transmission mounts
• B&B 930 front mounted engine oil cooler with thermostat
• 911SC front suspension with aluminum cross brace
• Porsche (Big Red) Twin Turbo front and rear brakes
• Pagid racing brake pads
• 23mm Gun-drilled front torsion bars
• 930 tie rods
• Charley front sway bar
• Porsche Factory rear sway bar
• Porsche RSR threaded front Bilstein struts and sport valve shocks
• Eibach rear coil over springs
• Automotion adjustable monoball upper strut mounts
• Poly-graphite suspension bushings
• 19mm Master cylinder
• Kinesis 17 X 8 and 17 X 9 ½ three piece racing wheels (polished)
• Fresh Goodyear Eagle F1 tires
• 914-6GT chassis stiffening kit
• 914-6GT boxed rear suspension
• Porsche Factory GT precision butt-welded steel flares
• Composite front and rear deck lids
• Factory GT composite racing seats
• MOMO prototipo steering wheel
• SPA fire system
• Porsche Factory fuel tank with Patrick Motorsports fuel – safe cell
• Martin Baker vintage exterior fuel cap
• New factory interior
• Bell seat belts
• Rennline Pedal box
• Adjustable brake bias with hydraulic e brake
• Racing mirrors

Pretty insane build back in the day. According to the PO, the build had over $125,000 in costs and upgrades. I've never priced them out, but I will say there is a lot of great work. The car is rock solid in itself.

Rebuilding the original 2.0 would cost some money, as would removing and replacing many other parts to bring it back close to original.

If the 3.6 engine and all of the performance parts were taken off, is there a market for it. I am just trying to gauge the market to see if my restoration cost could be offset with the sale of the parts. I simply do not know that space well.

Any guesses?

My other avenue might be a very reputable restoration shop (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) who would do the makeover in exchange for all of the parts. Could be a deal for someone. But I win too as my 914-6 is more valuable in original build.

Thanks.



In the FWIW department, I'll chime in w/my 2c's worth. Don't take nuttin to serious.

Your PO says 125k in costs for the build. For some perspective, Your build list is almost identical to my -6, with the exception of my car using a 993eng/915 trans, w/a Bott 916 kit. Did full rebuilds on both.

I didn't have 125k to spare so I bought only what I needed as I went. Did EVERY bit of work and engineering myself. (I do punch a time clock every morning.)

I mostly bought project items used from other guys abandoned projects, and only buying new when absolutely necessary. Took 12+ years to put her back on the road. Saved every receipt, for the next owner. My out of pocket is no more than a 1/3 of that 125k, car included.

I can't see 125k in the car unless it just handed over to someone, and once a week, checks were written for the work. It'd be easy to understand that tall number if that was the case. 1/3 parts, 2/3's paid in labor. In my case, labor was all me.

Pulling it apart, and selling pieces off 1 at a time, I can see you getting 20-30k if you market your adds efficiently.
Then the revert back to a 2.0 will be up to you to decide. Mine was an easy decision to hotrod, as it was a Euro car to start, and didn't even have an engine or transmission with it when I bought.
Anyway, you gotta do what you feel is best.. I don't have any regrets on mine..
Cheers
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dw914six   Turning a modified 914-6 back close to original   Sep 3 2014, 08:07 PM
PotterPorsche   What are looking at for the 3.6? I had to at least...   Sep 3 2014, 08:22 PM
dw914six   What are looking at for the 3.6? I had to at leas...   Sep 3 2014, 08:42 PM
SirAndy   That's a big can-o-worms ... From past experi...   Sep 3 2014, 08:35 PM
dw914six   That's a big can-o-worms ... From past exper...   Sep 3 2014, 08:45 PM
mepstein   Unless you have a big parts stash, you will need a...   Sep 3 2014, 09:56 PM
Mike Bellis   Almost like you should sell it as is and buy a sto...   Sep 3 2014, 10:02 PM
brant   Give up   Sep 3 2014, 10:09 PM
Larmo63   I agree with Mike, sell the sizzle to some hotshot...   Sep 3 2014, 11:02 PM
MoveQik   Is that Callicot's old car? If so, that car w...   Sep 3 2014, 11:43 PM
dw914six   Is that Callicot's old car? If so, that car ...   Sep 4 2014, 02:09 AM
Mark Henry   I own 2 914-6 (authentic) cars. 1 is slightly mo...   Sep 4 2014, 05:01 AM
mepstein   Pictures of big red?   Sep 4 2014, 06:01 AM
carr914   Is that Callicot's old car? If so, that car...   Sep 4 2014, 06:33 AM
Woody   Can you post some pictures? :beer2:   Sep 4 2014, 06:40 AM
RobW   I think there's comparable value to a 3.6 conv...   Sep 4 2014, 06:54 AM
CptTripps   :agree: with everyone else. Sell it as-is....buy a...   Sep 4 2014, 07:14 AM
RON S.   I own 2 914-6 (authentic) cars. 1 is slightly mo...   Sep 4 2014, 07:46 AM
CptTripps   Another thought... There MAY be someone willing t...   Sep 4 2014, 07:51 AM
carr914   Another thought from me Instead of taking Parts o...   Sep 4 2014, 10:03 AM
dw914six   Another thought from me Instead of taking Parts ...   Sep 4 2014, 12:54 PM
Jonathan Livesay   On the other hand it is a noble ambition to return...   Sep 4 2014, 10:53 AM
SirAndy   There are plenty of pictures of the car here on th...   Sep 4 2014, 11:18 AM
iamchappy   I think it would be a shame to change the car that...   Sep 4 2014, 06:47 PM
dw914six   I think it would be a shame to change the car tha...   Sep 4 2014, 07:58 PM
rick 918-S   I think it would be a shame to change the car tha...   Sep 4 2014, 10:09 PM
PanelBilly   I think it would be smarter to rebuild the origina...   Sep 4 2014, 08:32 PM
dw914six   I think it would be smarter to rebuild the origin...   Sep 4 2014, 08:57 PM
Mike Bellis   :wub:   Sep 4 2014, 11:01 PM
smj   The modifications to my -6 are modest enough that ...   Sep 5 2014, 10:38 AM


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