A Real M471? Options

[pete000]

I would think if it was a factory M471 optioned car the COA would have listed it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Nice color ! Hope he gets his asking price...

Vin is not in the data base that I see?


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[larryM]

"this discussion never ends!

"471" option was just a list of parts - could be built by anyone with the money

- it was all about fooling the FIA into homologating the model for WMC racing

search for and download this

SporttechnischerLeitfaden Comp'nPartsList - get English version here NOW - "Information regarding Porsche Vehicles Used for sports Purposes 911 S-914/6 from model 1970"; (print number 4890.20-200-03-72), 45 pages, , inclusive of racing car for GT-group 3 and group 4, 2nd edn
GT m471 Competition Parts List

then, build your own - any way you like it - as long as you start with a genuine sixer serial number - 4cyl conversions don't qualify

see this - (among multiple other debates about the 471 cars)

"The factory had made a bunch of "m471 kits" to change over a 914/6 to a GT. These kits were around for a few years and racers snapped them up to build GT clone cars."
m471 option


there are a lot of different opinions about whether the factory made and/or documented any of the said optioned cars

- for the most part, they did not document them, for reasons well discussed in other places & books;

so COAs are somewhat irrelevant, (and recently reported to be less than accurate by more than a few owners of many Porsche models) - "documented" is a non-issue


also see this m471 and GT issues

Brian Long wrote:

- "... there was a competition version available - the 914/6 GT, homologated in March 1970 .."

- Chapter Five - Motorsport " The 914/6 GT ... was nothing more than a standard 914/6 fitted with the optional R-package"

- " in addition to the works vehicles (12), a large number of cars were converted to GT specifications for customers, either by the factory or by privateers from Porsche supplied parts.

- " the 914/6 GT came in three versions: a customer car for competition/fast roadwork, a track racer developing 220bhp, and a rally model with around 160bhp at the wheels." ... " a 100 litre fuel tank was added on the racer..."

Brett Johnson writes:

- "While there was only one body style, a number of engine types combined with varying trim combinations make restoration of the 914 or 914/6 a bit confusing"

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FIA WMC homologation dictated "one" GT engine that we tend to think "is the only one",

but the rest of european rallye & hillclimb & slalom competitions took many forms and each dictated different torque & HP curves

but as you are learning - a lot of us guys each only have certain snippets of the whole story - and i doubt that anyone is still alive who was employed at Werks1 who actually knows it all & could tell it to us in English

- anybody up for a trip to Stuttgart?

the value of the '70-'71 GT cars as racers was simply in their competitive "2-liter Spezial GT Klasse" advantage -

and as DD points out - every one was a different flavor, pieces selected from the "R" parts list for specific competition purposes, and fitted specifically to their team drivers"

also check out this opinion 914 043 0181 GT for sale - sold

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[Dave_Darling]

"471" option was just a list of parts - could be built by anyone with the money

It sounds like you are saying that the M471 option and the 914-6 GT were synonymous? I don't think that's correct... What you said was indeed true for the GT, but I believe that the M471 option was not that. Check the German documentation that Andy posted earlier in the thread.

--DD

[SirAndy]

Check the German documentation that Andy posted earlier in the thread.

To quote myself:

It seems there is a LOT of confusion about what was part of the m471 package.

This thread has some good info:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=108357


The m471 package ONLY included:

- Metal Fender Flares
- 6x15 Alloy Wheels
- Longer Wheel Studs and 21mm Spacers front/rear


Anything else was extra!

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