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> Fire Suppression System, Suggestions wanted
Cairo94507
post Jan 16 2015, 09:05 AM
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Hi Everyone - As my car moves forward I think it is time to consider a small fire suppression system for the engine compartment. I would like something with maybe 3 nozzles which can be strategically placed to address a possible engine compartment fire.

I am hoping some of our members may have experience with these and would be willing to make a recommendation as to what is a neat, compact system. I want to get it mocked up before we move along to paint in case Scotty needs to weld in any brackets, etc. So please let me hear your thoughts.

Oh, this is going to be a stock 3.2 Motronic engine if that helps.

Thanks for your collective wisdom in helping me reduce the chance of an engine fire which consumes my car.

Michael
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post Jan 16 2015, 10:54 AM
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Different agents are available, as well:

Some of the dry chemical extinguishers are corrosive. They will eat wiring insulation and aluminum. They're almost impossible to clean up, too. I'm not sure if all of them are, these days, but try to avoid those.

The halon extinguishers work quite well, but obviously halon is harder to find now and rather more $$ than it used to be. Halon is also less effective in open areas where the wind can blow it away.

Old-fashioned CO2 is heavier and bulkier than the above. It can work well in enclosed spaces especially, but moving air will tend to dissipate it.

There are foam extinguishing agents that seem to work better in areas with air flow, but they make a mess and may be heavier and bulkier than halon or dry chem.

In a race car, there is generally one (or more) nozzle pointed at the engine, one pointed at the driver, and often but not always one at the fuel cell. The idea is go give the driver time to exit the vehicle, not to save the car.

It is possible that the CO2 can cool hot parts enough to keep them from re-starting a fire. I think the foam is supposed to be persistent enough to have a real shot at keeping fires from re-starting. But the dry-chem and halon are just for temporary supression.

Most extinguisher systems are used by racers. Check the Paddock section of this BBS, and the Racing section of the Pelican BBS, for lots more discussion.

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Cairo94507   Fire Suppression System   Jan 16 2015, 09:05 AM
76-914   http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspa...phoen...   Jan 16 2015, 09:13 AM
iamchappy   I went with a SPA unit i purchased from Pegusas R...   Jan 16 2015, 09:17 AM
stugray   I used this: https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...   Jan 16 2015, 10:23 AM
Dave_Darling   Different agents are available, as well: Some of ...   Jan 16 2015, 10:54 AM
Cairo94507   Great info so far but I definitely want to hear mo...   Jan 16 2015, 12:27 PM
stugray   One thing I forgot to mention about my system: It ...   Jan 16 2015, 01:27 PM
mepstein   I don't think you need one. Your will be fasti...   Jan 16 2015, 02:56 PM
PanelBilly   I've thought about adding a system too, but co...   Jan 16 2015, 03:29 PM
Mike Bellis   I run an AFFF sire foam system. It's refillabl...   Jan 16 2015, 03:34 PM
bandjoey   Racer Chris fuel lines to eliminate fire possibili...   Jan 16 2015, 06:32 PM
ConeDodger   Racer Chris fuel lines to eliminate fire possibil...   Jan 16 2015, 07:04 PM
Mike Bellis   I added my fire system so I would never need to us...   Jan 16 2015, 07:32 PM
Cairo94507   I already have the Tangerine Racing SS fuel lines....   Jan 16 2015, 08:24 PM
iamchappy   I went for foam as i believe it is the best at pre...   Jan 16 2015, 08:48 PM
Cairo94507   HHHMMMMMMM......OK so I think Chappy, Mike and stu...   Jan 16 2015, 09:33 PM
Mike Bellis   HHHMMMMMMM......OK so I think Chappy, Mike and st...   Jan 16 2015, 10:32 PM
stugray   I'm itching to pull the handle to see what i...   Jan 16 2015, 10:52 PM
aircooledtechguy   I'm itching to pull the handle to see what ...   Jan 21 2015, 11:41 AM
Cairo94507   OK- after considering all of the options I went wi...   Jan 20 2015, 08:53 AM
ThePaintedMan   I have the FireSense AFFF system in my car. AFFF f...   Jan 20 2015, 02:05 PM
campbellcj   I have a 4L Spa AFFF system with 4 nozzles: 1) fue...   Jan 20 2015, 10:36 PM


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