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> Carbs...or Fuel Injection?, I'm confused
JimFitz33
post Feb 2 2015, 01:08 PM
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Hey Guys,
I'm about 6 months into searching and researching these cars(914) and from what I gather...they were designed for fuel injection and should have fuel injection to work properly. I've read the warnings of poor engine runnings and bad gas mileage and all...but I still see SO many great cars that I've passed up because they are carbed. Can someone give me a little context in how to think about this stuff? I'm not a gear head and don't have enough knowledge to know why and why not. Anybody? I know what George at Auto Atlanta thinks....what about the rest of you guys? I'm a newbie and need your sage advice. Thoughts guys?
Thanks for any clarity or perspective.

Jim
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post Feb 4 2015, 09:36 AM
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If you are starting from scratch on the intake, aftermarket FI.

Weber and Dellorto carbs are nice, but based on designs from the 50's.
Stock FI is from the 70's

Why not update to technology that isn't over 40 years old?
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post Feb 6 2015, 07:31 AM
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QUOTE(monkeyboy @ Feb 4 2015, 10:36 AM) *

If you are starting from scratch on the intake, aftermarket FI.

Weber and Dellorto carbs are nice, but based on designs from the 50's.
Stock FI is from the 70's

Why not update to technology that isn't over 40 years old?

You got me thinking about my future engine rebuild (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Why stick with an expensive late 60's designed, low output, noisy Type IV?

Think I'll go Suby 2.5 liter, same as my Legacy GT - HP and torque numbers both nearing 300. Modern, powerful, and maintenance free (compared to a Type IV).

Where do you draw the line on modern upgrades? That's a slippery slope.

But back to the OP... Hopefully after reading all this he will realize that carbs/FI is a contentious topic for some reason, but also realize that there are plenty of teeners out there that run well/poorly on both carbs and FI. I think we can all agree there are more critical issues such as rust that should determine whether or not to even consider purchasing a specific teener; carbs should not automatically disqualify a teener that is on the market.
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post Feb 6 2015, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(somd914 @ Feb 6 2015, 05:31 AM) *

QUOTE(monkeyboy @ Feb 4 2015, 10:36 AM) *

If you are starting from scratch on the intake, aftermarket FI.

Weber and Dellorto carbs are nice, but based on designs from the 50's.
Stock FI is from the 70's

Why not update to technology that isn't over 40 years old?

You got me thinking about my future engine rebuild (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Why stick with an expensive late 60's designed, low output, noisy Type IV?

Think I'll go Suby 2.5 liter, same as my Legacy GT - HP and torque numbers both nearing 300. Modern, powerful, and maintenance free (compared to a Type IV).

Where do you draw the line on modern upgrades? That's a slippery slope.

But back to the OP... Hopefully after reading all this he will realize that carbs/FI is a contentious topic for some reason, but also realize that there are plenty of teeners out there that run well/poorly on both carbs and FI. I think we can all agree there are more critical issues such as rust that should determine whether or not to even consider purchasing a specific teener; carbs should not automatically disqualify a teener that is on the market.


You draw the line where you deem it. I can't decide that for anyone, just trying to provide all the options.

Me personally I want a car that retains the feel of original without all the annoying habits of carbs with no chokes, or FI that can be difficult to find parts for. But that was my assessment. And I didn't want to cut my car for a radiator.

In the case of my dad's car, we built a small block Ford that shows over 400 hp to the ground, idles with a rumble, and starts with no foot on the throttle as soon as you tap the key. FI can be great, I couldn't have tuned carbs to do that.

Like I said, the info is out there. Make the right decision for you and go with it.
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JimFitz33   Carbs...or Fuel Injection?   Feb 2 2015, 01:08 PM
colingreene   I like my carbs, they offer more performance and w...   Feb 2 2015, 01:53 PM
Rand   More power than FI would support? That has to be t...   Feb 2 2015, 01:59 PM
9146986   Poorly matched carbs, worn out carbs, or poorly co...   Feb 2 2015, 02:12 PM
Dave_Darling   It also comes down to what the guy (or gal!) w...   Feb 2 2015, 02:38 PM
struckn   I wouldn't pass on a nice 914 with a solid bod...   Feb 2 2015, 02:55 PM
r_towle   carbs rock, FI is best.... If you find a car you ...   Feb 2 2015, 03:01 PM
colingreene   Fine Rand, More power than the factory injection w...   Feb 2 2015, 03:19 PM
Rand   Fine Rand, More power than the factory injection ...   Feb 2 2015, 04:05 PM
thelogo   I'm all about using d+jets on stock cam motors...   Feb 2 2015, 03:31 PM
somd914   Everyone has their opinion here... Even the carb ...   Feb 2 2015, 08:52 PM
thelogo   Anyway, the big ticket item is rust. Find a good ...   Feb 2 2015, 09:50 PM
PanelBilly   Should we ban the carb vs FI debate? It messes w...   Feb 2 2015, 10:03 PM
somd914   Should we ban the carb vs FI debate? It messes ...   Feb 3 2015, 06:07 AM
BeatNavy   Should we ban the carb vs FI debate? It messes...   Feb 3 2015, 07:37 AM
thelogo   :beer3: honestly d,jet looks like a rat's nest...   Feb 2 2015, 10:04 PM
damesandhotrods   :beer3: honestly d,jet looks like a rat's nes...   Feb 3 2015, 12:17 AM
SirAndy   Carbs suck ... :D FI = better gas mileage, mor...   Feb 2 2015, 10:24 PM
Woody   Carbs suck ... :D FI = better gas mileage, mo...   Feb 3 2015, 07:25 AM
Mark Henry   Carbs suck ... :D FI = better gas mileage, mo...   Feb 3 2015, 07:38 AM
messix   just buy the least rusty, most complete, cleanest ...   Feb 2 2015, 11:01 PM
Claus Graf   When buying a 914 the most important issue is rust...   Feb 3 2015, 07:12 AM
ripper911   Look for a car with carbs that look like this. ht...   Feb 3 2015, 07:25 AM
funk   I think all the old -6 engines says it all. like t...   Feb 3 2015, 07:56 AM
stugray   I think all the old -6 engines says it all. like ...   Feb 3 2015, 08:23 AM
Dave_Darling   I think all the old -6 engines says it all. like ...   Feb 3 2015, 12:33 PM
Hiptobesquare   Hey Guys, I'm about 6 months into searching a...   Feb 3 2015, 10:50 AM
rgolia   My 914 has about 140,000 miles on it..all of which...   Feb 3 2015, 02:19 PM
monkeyboy   If you are starting from scratch on the intake, af...   Feb 4 2015, 09:36 AM
Mueller   If you are starting from scratch on the intake, a...   Feb 4 2015, 02:39 PM
somd914   If you are starting from scratch on the intake, a...   Feb 6 2015, 07:31 AM
monkeyboy   If you are starting from scratch on the intake, ...   Feb 6 2015, 09:52 AM
Dave_Darling   Stock FI is from the 60s at the latest--there were...   Feb 4 2015, 02:29 PM
monkeyboy   I am running a Microsquirt setup based on the stoc...   Feb 4 2015, 02:47 PM
Mueller   I am running a Microsquirt setup based on the sto...   Feb 4 2015, 03:04 PM
monkeyboy   I am running a Microsquirt setup based on the st...   Feb 4 2015, 04:47 PM
Mueller   No it doesn't but I was looking for simplic...   Feb 6 2015, 09:34 AM
ClayPerrine   No it doesn't but I was looking for simplicit...   Feb 7 2015, 08:19 AM
naro914   So let me relay a recent experience: Huey has been...   Feb 4 2015, 04:38 PM
oldschool   Just remember...it's who you know :evilgrin:   Feb 6 2015, 10:54 PM
struckn   One thing that needs to be remembered is that if y...   Feb 7 2015, 10:00 AM
Dave_Darling   A 914 engine with a stock FI cam can be made to ru...   Feb 7 2015, 12:26 PM
Dmidco914   my question is; when changing to carbs, what other...   May 27 2020, 06:28 PM
thelogo   my question is; when changing to carbs, what othe...   May 29 2020, 01:57 AM
Mark Henry   First thing is to determine if you have a sound en...   May 28 2020, 06:10 AM
914 Ranch   I personally am a fan of carburetion. That being s...   May 29 2020, 01:19 AM


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