HOW TO: run the fuel pump for carb conversions, the easy solution! |
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HOW TO: run the fuel pump for carb conversions, the easy solution! |
SirAndy |
Feb 25 2005, 06:41 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,937 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Back by popular demand, Sir Andy's "HOW TO" series presents:
HOW TO: Run the fuel pump for carb conversions There are numerous tech. articles out there that cover this issue. When you switch from the stock FI to carburetors, you have to install a low pressure carb fuel-pump. But, since the FI fuel pump is controlled by the FI brain, removing the brain means the wires to the fuel pump won't give you 12V ... There are a lot of "band-aid" solutions out there, some people remove the pump relay and add a jumper there, others even run the pump off the coil! While all those solutions work (more or less) they all lack one thing, you're now running the pump without a relay! (and in case of the coil, without fuse as well) The best (and also easiest!) solution is to trick the relayboard into believing that the FI-Brain is still connected ... And it's as simple as connecting one wire from the 4-prong FI connector to ground. You keep the stock fuel pump relay and fuse and you use the stock wires to power the new fuel pump. Below you'll see 2 pictures showing how to attach the wire. on the pump side, simple make 2 more extension wires with "male" connectors on one end and plug them into the stock (roundish) plug for the stock fuel pump. No need to hack into the original harness!!! This install is clean and simple! (and cheap!) In the pics below the thick red wired replaces the FI-Brain ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) Andy (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-11-1109378319.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-11-1109378417.jpg) |
anderssj |
Nov 3 2011, 12:26 PM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,713 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Another "twist" to this approach . . . .
Because the pump will run as long as the key is in the "on" position, I wired a fuel pump inertial switch (from a Ford (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ) into the wire running from the 4-prong FI connector to ground (the "red" wire in Andy's pictures). That way if the car is in an accident, the ground is "interrupted" and the fuel pump stops (NOTE: this is a little different from Ford's approach, which puts the switch on the hot side of the pump instead of the ground). Here's a picture of the switch: The switch costs 25-30 new at your FLAPS; I got a couple of used ones at the local pick-n-pull for a couple of bucks each. These switches have been known to go bad once in a while, but mine has been good for a couple of years. Here's a link to a site that provides some good info on the switch: http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_libra...rtiaSwitch.html Instructions for installing the Smart Racing Products (SRP) version of the switch are here: http://www.smartracingproducts.com/pdfdocs...fuelshutoff.pdf My switch is currently mounted near the ground post just forward of the relay board cover. I'm thinking of putting it in the + side like Ford did--and as recommended in the SRP instructions. Then I should be able to mount the switch somewhere in the passenger footwell. Hope this helps! |
ClayPerrine |
Feb 7 2015, 04:28 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,948 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Another "twist" to this approach . . . . Because the pump will run as long as the key is in the "on" position, I wired a fuel pump inertial switch (from a Ford (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ) into the wire running from the 4-prong FI connector to ground (the "red" wire in Andy's pictures). That way if the car is in an accident, the ground is "interrupted" and the fuel pump stops (NOTE: this is a little different from Ford's approach, which puts the switch on the hot side of the pump instead of the ground). Here's a picture of the switch: The switch costs 25-30 new at your FLAPS; I got a couple of used ones at the local pick-n-pull for a couple of bucks each. These switches have been known to go bad once in a while, but mine has been good for a couple of years. Here's a link to a site that provides some good info on the switch: http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_libra...rtiaSwitch.html Instructions for installing the Smart Racing Products (SRP) version of the switch are here: http://www.smartracingproducts.com/pdfdocs...fuelshutoff.pdf My switch is currently mounted near the ground post just forward of the relay board cover. I'm thinking of putting it in the + side like Ford did--and as recommended in the SRP instructions. Then I should be able to mount the switch somewhere in the passenger footwell. Hope this helps! Now everyone knows to trip the switch to disable your car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) I did that back in 89 while Christmas shopping at the mall. I was driving an old Dodge Aspen, and was waiting for a parking space. The person in the space backed out toward me, and a "Female Dog" in a Lincoln Town car cut right in front of the car backing out and quickly pulled into the space. She jumped from the car and took off into the mall. So I just pulled up and bumped her car with the old Dodge. Later I came out to put some packages in the trunk of the Dodge, just to hear her grinding away on the starter till the battery died. I went back in the mall and when I came out again, the wrecker was pulling the Town Car out of the parking space. I so wanted to tell her what happened after the car was on the flatbed on it's way to the shop, but I didn't get the chance. |
Elliot Cannon |
Feb 8 2015, 10:37 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
Now everyone knows to trip the switch to disable your car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) I did that back in 89 while Christmas shopping at the mall. I was driving an old Dodge Aspen, and was waiting for a parking space. The person in the space backed out toward me, and a "Female Dog" in a Lincoln Town car cut right in front of the car backing out and quickly pulled into the space. She jumped from the car and took off into the mall. So I just pulled up and bumped her car with the old Dodge. Later I came out to put some packages in the trunk of the Dodge, just to hear her grinding away on the starter till the battery died. I went back in the mall and when I came out again, the wrecker was pulling the Town Car out of the parking space. I so wanted to tell her what happened after the car was on the flatbed on it's way to the shop, but I didn't get the chance. Disabling some ones car because they parked like a dick, pretty makes you a DICK! |
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