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> Flat 8 ? I've seen pics of the Lind one, how about a running one here!
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post Mar 4 2015, 06:01 PM
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If VW made a flat 8 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Brazilian Flat 8

I know, not a Type IV, I would think it would be close enough to a Type I to be done the same way?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXKcpbFF7WI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0TFrJv9CO8


Beetle BIMOTOR called the 'Jamaro' first test.

Translation from the video:
"Excellent, the pressure is great, Today is March 19th, 2009, and tomorrow, we will be recorded for the show,
'Auto Esporte'. Good work Marco, Good work Arlindo"

Marcelo Henrique:
This is what Fittipaldi drove?

CRITICAL POINT,PONTOCRITICO:
The idea of ​​creating large engines with smaller units of existing parts is not new and that engine began to be conceived in the late 60s.
But since then, it has been found that in practice for this thesis is not so easy. What is originally a small and low-performance engine,
it does not generate sufficient lubrication and too hot in the last cylinder block with the increase. Then the resistance and serviceability of the air VW contradicts with increasing size.
Then begin a series of adjustments that begin to change everything in the original engine, creating almost a new engine and is not the original design intent
Keep parts and the original propeller profile is viable to the 6-cylinder design, because in the case of the 8-cylinder plus overheats, it lacks lubrication critically.
They walked considering transforming the 8-cylinder engine in aircraft design because with the cylinders exposed things get easier, but not so this was being very easy.
As the old American adage, free lunch is something that does not exist ...

 Gabriel Aiello:
you would an engine of these on order?

 T-Bar Auto Doc:
This is a custom flat 8 built in Brazil. The prototype was two VW engines (each 1500cc) built together to form one fire breathing monster known as the the 'Jamaro'.


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Have a close look at those parts.Floating wrist pins.Gas or TIG welded heads.

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Yes,this is it,the 'Jamaro of Brazil'.
Marco has a battery and pump,checking oil flow(trans fluid).


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low-res photo,note cut and shut welds on case.How they dunnit,a few years ago.
Resize the welded crank and rod journals to fit the remachined cases post welding.
Main journals and bearings larger than stock.Means facing and line-boring the cases.
Any tig-man could do this in 2015.Weld a set of cases to 0.005"?Sure.Build a set of jigs and oven weld in steps,checking all the way.

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Emerson Fittipaldi's 1970 3.2L mid-engine Beetle.Ganged engine.


http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/archive/i...t-353826--.html
http://mestrejoca.blogspot.ca/2009/03/as-e...tor-jamaro.html
A cast crank?Sure.

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(edit:09/10/16):
http://forum.hotcampinas.com/showthread.ph...00cc-8cil-boxer

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"Perhaps one of the boldest projects involving engines will be talked about now in MotorSS during the 60's and 70 national motoring wind was in the stern, official teams of assemblers,
emergence of new categories, workshops creating their own cars and engines.
And in 1969, the brothers Jairo and Jair Amaro built a unique engine. A VW air 8-cylinder boxer with 3000 cc, may be the only motor 8 cylinders with these settings in the world!
In fact he was born in 69 with the addition of 2 1,300 cc blocks, and this one camshaft (which are actually 2 P3 soldiers in one piece), and a crankshaft that turns the eight lying cylinders to feed 2 webber 48.
The history of this car actually is this conceptual engine. In the story, the designers put him in a car race formula style. This engine came to walk in 70 years, but a chronic problem of lack of oil pressure
wore a little his image and many of its competitors at that time had stronger engines, made this engine was left aside. Amaro brothers built in the decade of 60-70s over 25 race cars Formula Vee,
and even the sports car maker Puma became interested in the VW 8-cylinder engine, but missed. Brothers Fitipaldi also set up a Volkswagen Beetle Bimotor, but its manufacture was totally different from Jamaro.
In 2004, Paul Trevisan, businessman Passo Fundo and passionate about motoring acquired the engine in the city of Guaratingueta, SP and brought to the Brazilian Motor doMuseu the collection
owned by the same engine .That was all dismantled and restored, after that it has been tested bench. It was also studied and relieved the problem of oil pressure, or the engine tava ready.Now lacked a car.
After long evaluation it was decided to make a Volkswagen Beetle Beechcraft, for reasons that enthusiasts can imagine, which put the name of the original prototype.
Some changes occurred in the engine to try to solve the oil problem, demanded 2 exchange bearings of the connecting rods, a new high-pressure pump driven by toothed belt improved the car's performance.
In fact, it is a fairing Beetle on a tubular chassis racing Espron. Only in March 2009 this engine was turned on to be displayed at the Auto Sport TV Globo, which will soon be aired. On the program's filming, the car showed
overheating due to kardródomo the runway Velopark incompatible with the car's performance.Now Paul and his mechanic Marcos are installing additional electric fans on the roof to improve engine cooling,
for only the air entradade on the front glass not supplied the air necessary for such activity. Paul Trevisan informed us that there is a great expectation of VW Bimotor Jamaro floor at the Interlagos circuit, later this year.
Now, this beautiful car is the only sound, a different snoring all other engines, and you can prove in
http://www.interney.net/blogs/saloma Soloma blog on YouTube (type Fusca Bimotor)
The Volkswagen Beetle Bimotor as we talked about before is part of the Brazilian Automobile Museum located in Passo Fundo.
Want to learn more, visit the website: http://www.museudoautomobilismo.com.br/"

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Mueller   Flat 8 ? I've seen pics of the Lind one, how about a running one here!   Mar 4 2015, 06:01 PM
screenguy914   What are the odds the modified crank will break be...   Mar 4 2015, 06:42 PM
damesandhotrods   Custom for the sake of being custom, it’s great ...   Mar 4 2015, 08:19 PM
Vacca Rabite   Custom for the sake of being custom, it’s great...   Mar 4 2015, 10:43 PM
rick 918-S   I really like it! Rich..... :shades2:   Mar 4 2015, 09:25 PM
Mike Bellis   I think T4 heads would have been easier.   Mar 4 2015, 09:43 PM
dlestep   "908 firing orders (taken from a Bill Oursler...   Mar 4 2015, 11:20 PM
veekry9   This is drawn as an an interlaced crank.10 main b...   Mar 5 2015, 12:13 AM
Mueller   http://scootermcrad.blogspot.ca/2014/07/po...conc...   Mar 6 2015, 12:52 PM
veekry9   tXKcpbFF7WIE0TFrJv9CO8 Beetle BIMOTOR called the ...   Mar 5 2015, 03:47 AM
Mark Henry   Why the hell would you go to all that trouble and ...   Mar 5 2015, 06:19 AM
ldsgeek   Why the hell would you go to all that trouble and...   Mar 5 2015, 07:46 AM
VWTortuga336   Why the hell would you go to all that trouble and...   Mar 5 2015, 08:54 AM
damesandhotrods   Why the hell would you go to all that trouble and...   Mar 5 2015, 01:11 PM
Mark Henry   Why the hell would you go to all that trouble an...   Mar 7 2015, 06:53 AM
veekry9   'The Jamaro'. Back in 1969, the brothers J...   Mar 5 2015, 08:25 AM
Mueller   So it looks like it took 3 engine cases for the Br...   Mar 5 2015, 10:16 AM
veekry9   RfnN5Xna2Kc The journal is prepared by machin...   Mar 5 2015, 11:49 AM
Mueller   The journal is prepared by machining a "j...   Mar 5 2015, 12:01 PM
veekry9   An unfortunate smelting accident. The fella...   Mar 5 2015, 12:58 PM
Mueller   I found more pictures of the Lind Type IV flat 8 m...   Mar 6 2015, 01:06 PM
veekry9   Anymore pictures of the 4 valve setup? I don...   Mar 6 2015, 06:51 PM
veekry9   http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t...   Mar 6 2015, 06:59 PM
r_towle   Anyone know how to contact the guys in Sweden? A n...   Mar 6 2015, 07:38 PM
Mark Henry   On the heads it's like history repeating itsel...   Mar 7 2015, 07:02 AM
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Dave_Darling   ....those radial motors are cool, great HP for the...   Mar 7 2015, 10:45 AM
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