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914 Engine Choices, Will buy 914, if I can build a monster |
GreekDriver |
Aug 31 2004, 07:13 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 31-August 04 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 2,669 |
Hello. I'm a BMW fan, sorry guys. But the 914 has to be one of the funnest cars I've ever driven! Other than its transmission feeling like shifting through oatmeal and damn near impossible to get a smoot shift out of... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (This is on all 914s I've driven, even one with a rebuilt transmission)
Well, there's a nice 914 for sale, with minimal rust, original motor, great interior and paint, and low miles. It's a 76 2.0l I believe, in Black. A fella in the neighborhood has had it since 1979 and barely driven it. He's not a car guy, he bought it because it looked nice. It drives nicely, but it lacks power, and the brakes don't impress me. It's going to need an engine and rebuilding the type iv to its horrible stock form would just piss me off. Alot. I've been looking at engine options and I have no clue on what to do. I want lightweight, EXTREMELY high revving, past 10k RPMs, and over 190hp. So the V8s are out of the question. I've thought about a 2.0l Carrea motor, as those should be able to rev like hell when built. But I haven't really seen much info on them anywhere. Another Idea I had was an S14 engine from the E30 M3(1988 BMW M3), but I have no clue what transmission I'd use and how I'd get it to work... My last idea was to build an M10 up. The M10 was THE I-4 out of the BMW 2002s, E21s, and some E30s. It loves boost, the 1.5l block was doing 1500hp for BMW F1 in the 80s. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I would try to find a way to get it to rev high in N/A form, or boost it. But again, I don't know how I'd get it to work with the 914. Anyways, just give me some general ideas guys. I'd worry about suspension and brakes later. Oh, and the damn transmission would be going to the yard and I'm going to request to see it crunched, it would make me feel so good. Thanks! And it's nice to be here! Hopefully I'll get some interesting responses to push me to buy that car. |
Jeroen |
Sep 2 2004, 09:43 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
I tried real hard not to post, but I can resist no longer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
You get snotty remarks, basically because you ask for them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Not because you say the type4 or other pieces/parts of the 914 are crap... We don't care about any of that. 914-ers have thick skins and are used to that (on the porsche-scale, most consider the 914 to be somewhere down in the gutter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)) It's your BS remarks about things like it needs to rev over 9.5K, turbo, 1500bhp, blah, blah, blah... that will get you into trouble here. Most people here have "been there, done that" and know a few things about these cars. Some of them worked, raced or converted them for as long as the car is around, so they should know a thing or 2 about what works and what doesn't We've had guys like you come and go here before. You come off with BS claims and a "know it all" attitude. Stuff like that may impress people on a BMW, Honda or other rice-racer forum, but here people will just laugh their asses off and tell you to piss off (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) So there you have it... Back on topic: Like I mentioned earlier... even IF you can build that 225bhp/litre engine that only weighs 30#, how are you gonna get that kind of power to the wheels? A 901 box won't hold up for sure, and even a converted 915 (bring serious money) probably won't last long. To handle that kind of power. You'd probably be looking at a modified 930 tranny (most likely not hip enuf for you because it only has 4 gears and wouldn't work in your case because of your high reving small powerband engine either). More likely you'll need a late G50 type transmission (again bring serious money and then some to get it running in a midengined car). I don't think I've heard you mention 1 thing about suspension upgrades and very little about brake upgrades. Typical for any boy-racer, because you'd think that huge bhp's will win a race. People here know different and will learn how to drive first, build a good suspension/brakes second and get more power once they know they can handle it Another reason (for me) to think you're just full of BS. For now, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, just a little longer and see what happens next... About the electronic parts catalog and even the factory manual... yes, they exist (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) you'll have to ask nicely and someone here may point you in the right direction (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Oh, btw... Sean was wrong about the 3.2 it makes 230 (not 320) bhp in stock trim Don't know too much about BMW's (nor do I care about them) but IIRC that's what the recent 3.2 3series BMW puts out, so BMW is only like 2 decades behind (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif) cheers, Jeroen |
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