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post Apr 9 2015, 08:12 AM
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Following up on my emulsion tube issue this week:

These carbs were purchased from Webercarbsdirect.com and were represented as genuine Webers.

They are not. They are Chinese knock-offs.


The retailer refuses to take them back.

You've been warned!




Do everyone a favor and spread this around to help others from getting screwed.

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post Apr 9 2015, 08:31 AM
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From Bud Pauge at Redline Weber (apparently the real deal):






Joe

I will send you two each F11 e tubes

but I will note

these are not Weber Carburetors, These are one of two versions

Note one you did not send any pictures of your Carburetors and those numbers you mentioned are not Weber identifeing or production reference numbers.

I believe you have if you see a weber logo cast on the carb body it will be on a Flat side of the carburetor.

the other side of the carburetor will be rounded.

These are alternative branded Webers assembled from parts of no identity or known manufacture and assembled in the Edlebrock Weber production plant in North Carolina. They are not a Genuine European Weber Product.

Im sorry to give you this bad news.

Weber Carbs direct is not a direct importer of Weber Carburetors and more commonly supplys Chinese alternative product and supplies them as Weber with out any real note that they are only Weber like they have never seen the inside of a Weber Production facility.

At one time when there was an issue with Weber Production ( at one time the plant was closed for just over a year due to a labor issue) during this time they recived permision to offer alternative product. This time has ended Weber has been back in production in Spain and has been producing product at there own plant now for 8 years.

This has been the plant of supply for Weber for nearly 20 years now.

So pending your pictures to confirm I am wrong you can confirm if you note a flat sided carburetor with logo cast on the flat side or no logo anywhere other than a round sticker the serial number is just there way of selling the belief you have a real weber give it a serial number it must be real.

again Im sorry for your issue

can I ask are you a Worldpac customer or is series 9 a worldpac customer

If the purchase was under 9 months ago you could return them as not as ordered required Genuine European Webers.

At this point they are what they are.

Should at some point you have other issues or lack the performance expected from a Weber we understand the frustration in good faith you thought you had a Weber. We will offer to sell at redused cost a Genuine set because we did not import or sell these alternative carburetors we cannot exchange them or sell them below cost.

The bad news is if they are the chinese Copy they are selling them at weber like prices ( you would have to confirm what you paid ) but commonly the square sided US carburetor is something like 100 dollars a pair less in value and the chinese ones to give you an idea of how they are made are a full 100 dollars a carb less expensive you can usually purchase a chinese conversion kit for something like 450 to 499 not more than 600.
The flat sided carbs I believe are also in the 599 range.

In the future please be aware, Redline fuel managment and WEber Carburetor conversions is a division of Worldpac. Redline has been a Weber direct importer for over 45 years. I personaly have worked for some form of US direct importer for weber for over 55 years. We currently are one of only two world direct distributors of Weber Carburetors .

We have been supporting and supplying only genuine Weber Product. We do manufacture our own adapters , linkage parts and specificly calibrated and set up Weber Conversion kits. When we supply a carburetor in a conversion it has been opened float levels checked and set and today a specific calibration change for the current emissions fuels

you note your in Florida the pump fuels in the south east are blended to meet emissions standards using up to 18% blend alcohol /or ethanol as an emissions supplment thus it is not posted on the pump. I have worked very closely with some of the chemical team at Joe Gibbs racing and would suggest in there studies to creat there new fuel additive line the Engineer Lake Speed Jr has found that in just the mid atlantics over the last year there have been no less than 167 different fuel variations all with Oxygenated or alcohol related chemical additives. Which is why like Lucas fuel additives Gibbs now supplies a line by the name of Driven fuel additives and fuel stabalizers.

Many of your customers have noted mood swings in there cars you will find weber carbs will wake up some times over night and simply run like Sh---- and you may have just performed a tune up. the fuel swings can be over night.

So with that

in the future if we can help with your shop Weber needs tuning guidance and any tuning and install information we are glade to help

I will note that the carburetors you have at best may as well be a Dellorto you can tune them to function they will run the car.

What they will not do is tune to the same fine detail and if we use lap time as a reference to function quality they simply will not get with in 1.5 seconds of a weber tuned car. ( tuned right that is )

Several companies were given the right to use the license to copy a Weber

Solex, Dellorto, Mikuni, even the SK made in japan for Toyota. each make a nice looking replica. Back to back on any given sunday a weber application will simply out perform all of these applications.

Our frustration is there are people out there that simply take advantage of others a domain name is not a registered legal name. Weber carbs direct is not a registered business name it is a domain name because of that many people think they are purchasing a real weber from us and are simply purchasing from an importer and packager that is not related.

I am very sorry for what might be bad news

I am interested to hear any comments you might have observed. and any pictures of the carburetors and the serial numbers or other details you might reference..

WK288 is not a Redline carburetor conversion

;I am very interested to confirm any numbers from the carburetor base and any pictures you might be able to offer.

I will send out the e tubes because at this point you believe you have a Weber. We can deal with that fall out down the road.

Thanks for your input comments and I hope future support of Genuine Weber Products
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Joe,

Thanks for posting this. It could save someone a lot of time, money and frustration.

I hope it all works out for your customer.
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Series9   Webercarbsdirect.com   Apr 9 2015, 08:12 AM
Series9   The only thing on the carb that says "Weber...   Apr 9 2015, 08:18 AM
rhodyguy   I knew this was coming. There have been more issue...   Apr 9 2015, 08:20 AM
Series9   The vendor kept skirting around the issue until I ...   Apr 9 2015, 08:27 AM
Series9   From Bud Pauge at Redline Weber (apparently the re...   Apr 9 2015, 08:31 AM
Kansas 914   Joe, Thanks for posting this. It could save someo...   Apr 9 2015, 08:41 AM
rhodyguy   Skip the f bombs joe. I hope this matter is resolv...   Apr 9 2015, 09:16 AM
ripper911   I bought mine from webercarbsdierect through eBay ...   Apr 9 2015, 09:37 AM
914werke   Tough lesson, good info. Bottom line support Redli...   Apr 9 2015, 09:51 AM
walterolin   Not just 914's: https://www.google.com/web...   Apr 9 2015, 10:04 AM
ripper911   The kit that I got from them was the weber redline...   Apr 9 2015, 10:26 AM
sean_v8_914   i saw some fake webers that seep out of casting po...   Apr 9 2015, 11:28 AM
aircooledtechguy   I used webercarbsdirect.com occasionally for sever...   Apr 9 2015, 02:00 PM
DBCooper   EDIT: IRRELEVANT, SEE ALIBABA CHINESE SUPPLIERS P...   Apr 9 2015, 02:25 PM
rhodyguy   "Authorized source or licensee". Ok. Lot...   Apr 9 2015, 02:41 PM
Chris914n6   China has become capitalist America without the le...   Apr 9 2015, 03:28 PM
DBCooper   EDIT: IRRELEVANT, SEE ALIBABA CHINESE SUPPLIERS P...   Apr 9 2015, 03:28 PM
DBCooper   Forget that, I don't think it will matter. Th...   Apr 9 2015, 03:52 PM
rhodyguy   $50…the manufacturing costs must be about ...   Apr 9 2015, 05:30 PM
patssle   Go through your credit card company if they are re...   Apr 9 2015, 06:06 PM
billh1963   Buy older carbs and rebuild them....it may be the ...   Apr 9 2015, 06:21 PM
euro911   Buy older carbs and rebuild them....it may be the ...   Apr 12 2015, 12:59 PM
ice cold   Joe has been doing an awesome job of dealing with ...   Apr 9 2015, 09:37 PM
Series9   Thank you Chris. It's been a very long road f...   Apr 10 2015, 05:40 PM
Cairo94507   China is crapping all over the USA by sending us t...   Apr 11 2015, 07:17 AM
DBCooper   China is crapping all over the USA by sending us ...   Apr 11 2015, 09:31 AM
Cairo94507   I am perfectly willing to pay for quality. I just...   Apr 11 2015, 09:51 AM
a few loose screws   I am perfectly willing to pay for quality. I jus...   Apr 11 2015, 10:06 AM
DBCooper   Yes, same story. Jolida, huh? Wow, noted. This ...   Apr 11 2015, 10:36 AM
a few loose screws   I'll be buying webers for my own car. Just to ...   Apr 11 2015, 10:59 AM
DBCooper   Yes, but at this point I don't think I'd p...   Apr 11 2015, 11:49 AM
rhodyguy   if you want webers, find a clean used set of itali...   Apr 11 2015, 12:18 PM
ice cold   This whole ordeal makes me want to pull my hair ou...   Apr 12 2015, 10:20 AM
Jake Raby   Weber has been owned by Worldpac for years. Any ...   Apr 12 2015, 11:41 AM
brp986s   ISO 9001, 6 sigma is as easy to fake as a 11 dolla...   Apr 12 2015, 01:20 PM
DBCooper   ISO 9001, 6 sigma is as easy to fake as a 11 doll...   Apr 12 2015, 03:05 PM
Mike Bellis   ISO 9001, 6 sigma is as easy to fake as a 11 dol...   Apr 12 2015, 05:31 PM
jeffdon   You can bash China for sometimes producing crap, b...   Apr 12 2015, 03:13 PM
euro911   ... We barely know how to make the stuff here any...   Apr 12 2015, 05:31 PM
aircooledtechguy   You can bash China for sometimes producing crap, ...   Apr 12 2015, 09:08 PM
DBCooper   For my resume? Sorry, what? Their "plan...   Apr 12 2015, 06:04 PM
worn   For my resume? Sorry, what? Their "plan...   Apr 13 2015, 11:21 AM
DBCooper   When this discussion began I e-mailed webercarbsdi...   Apr 13 2015, 08:11 AM
euro911   Competition as we used to know it doesn't play...   Apr 13 2015, 02:58 PM
SirAndy   How can American manufacturers, with American work...   Apr 13 2015, 04:19 PM
Elliot Cannon   How can American manufacturers, with American wor...   Apr 13 2015, 04:42 PM
euro911   By making a quality product and selling it with en...   Apr 13 2015, 05:55 PM
SirAndy   i have no idea what type of product your company m...   Apr 14 2015, 11:16 AM
DBCooper   Competition as we used to know it doesn't pla...   Apr 13 2015, 05:38 PM
TJB/914   :angry: Wow, I wonder what I have?? There is a s...   Apr 13 2015, 03:22 PM
aircooledtechguy   :angry: Wow, I wonder what I have?? There is a ...   Apr 13 2015, 04:06 PM
Jonathan Livesay   Aren't those for Fiats?   Apr 13 2015, 03:27 PM
ice cold   Well as expected webercarbsdirect has not returned...   Apr 13 2015, 04:31 PM
Mike Bellis   I bet these are real >:D   Apr 13 2015, 04:58 PM
Mike Bellis   :D   Apr 13 2015, 04:59 PM
Porschef   :D :drooley: :drooley: My air cooled dream....   Apr 13 2015, 05:44 PM
914_teener   All this over some bad Fallopian tubes........ Th...   Apr 13 2015, 05:23 PM
Beeliner   Wages aren't the only expense. Continue to br...   Apr 13 2015, 06:20 PM
euro911   Wages aren't the only expense.Of course not. ...   Apr 13 2015, 06:49 PM
Dave_Darling   Sounds like this has veered very dangerously close...   Apr 13 2015, 08:25 PM
DBCooper   Yeah, politics are bad. Like carburetors. God ma...   Apr 13 2015, 08:34 PM
euro911   It's actually all pertinent. The fact is that ...   Apr 13 2015, 08:53 PM
ripper911   Carbs are better! http://www.914world.com/bbs...   Apr 14 2015, 05:35 AM
euro911   OK, Andy - I'm familiar with the company, bein...   Apr 14 2015, 11:50 AM
scotty b   FWIW I bought a set from Redline a few years ago f...   Apr 14 2015, 12:10 PM
Elliot Cannon   I believe these are real. Been on the car for 11 ...   Apr 14 2015, 05:02 PM
scotty b   if you're doing a full rebuild brush and solv...   Apr 14 2015, 05:26 PM
Series9   Quick update: Redline gave my customer a discount...   Apr 15 2015, 03:48 PM
euro911   That's good news :headbanger:   Apr 15 2015, 04:20 PM
Series9   What fucking happened to Dellorto?........ They w...   Apr 15 2015, 04:27 PM
MoveQik   What fucking happened to Dellorto?........ They ...   Apr 15 2015, 11:55 PM
euro911   What fucking happened to Dellorto?........ They w...   Apr 15 2015, 11:59 PM
mikesmith   What fucking happened to Dellorto?........ They...   Apr 16 2015, 10:18 PM
r3dplanet   Elliot, I'm not the first to say it but I...   Apr 16 2015, 02:02 AM
Jake Raby   Don't get your hopes up for those "Genuin...   Apr 18 2015, 03:36 PM
euro911   Found a set of Italian Webers in a box yesterday. ...   Apr 18 2015, 08:04 PM
DBCooper   Cool. If I remember right the K&N tops are sh...   Apr 19 2015, 11:43 AM
euro911   Cool. If I remember right the K&N tops are sh...   Apr 19 2015, 10:22 PM


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