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> OT-what model is this Lotus?
Bleyseng
post Sep 4 2004, 07:15 AM
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Stumbled across this Lotus in Rethymon, Crete on the street. What is it?

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post Sep 6 2004, 09:23 AM
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Lotuses were not particularly badly engineered compared to other British cars of the day. I think plenty of engineering went into the road-going Lotus cars, but durability just wasn't considered as important as it sound have been. They would have been complete non-starters had Colin Chapman started in 1980 rather than 1950, when government regulations required things like crash testing. There were a number of significant missteps, like the first Elite (fiberglass monocoque, which cracked badly when exposed to real roads, not just racetracks). However, I also consider the first Elite to be one of the prettiest, tidiest cars ever made.

That said, there's been a good deal of progress using these cars as inspiration. Caterham has made the Seven a durable car, though they added significant weight to get it (up to 1500lbs from 1100lbs). Banks Garage has manage to produce solid Europas with a vastly stronger chassis, and managed to do so without adding a huge amount of weight.

The 914 can also be made into a much better car now than it was in 1969. Shortcomings in power, braking, strength, and shifting have all been addressed over the years.

What we should be happy for is that cars were made that sufficiently inspired people to go to all of this trouble in continuing to develop them long after the factory stopped. IMHO, there are far fewer such cars being produced today. Can you see people continuing to drive and improve the MR Spyder in 2034?
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Bleyseng   OT-what model is this Lotus?   Sep 4 2004, 07:15 AM
Chris H.   Looks like a newer Esprit.   Sep 4 2004, 07:17 AM
Jeroen   Yep, should be one of the most recent/latest Espri...   Sep 4 2004, 07:26 AM
maf914   Has Esprit production stopped? Is there a replace...   Sep 4 2004, 07:55 AM
airsix     Sep 4 2004, 09:04 AM
gopack   lotus showroom pic! looks like it IS a late mo...   Sep 4 2004, 09:38 AM
vortrex   I like those cars, twin turbo V8.   Sep 4 2004, 09:52 AM
lapuwali   The one in that photo looks new enough that it...   Sep 4 2004, 09:54 AM
J P Stein   Heard this story. A Portland HIGH END dealership w...   Sep 4 2004, 09:58 AM
i love porsche   mid engine too =] they sound sooo nice   Sep 4 2004, 12:12 PM
thesey914   Lotus HAS stopped making the Esprit. Production st...   Sep 4 2004, 01:11 PM
jkeyzer   I saw this recently. :wub:   Sep 4 2004, 01:48 PM
michel richard   Lotus Elan, (as it says on the side of the car). ...   Sep 4 2004, 04:19 PM
jimtab   <...   Sep 5 2004, 12:55 AM
Jeroen   Are you shittin' me. The Europa is cool! R...   Sep 5 2004, 07:46 AM
Aaron Cox     Sep 5 2004, 10:57 AM
thesey914     Sep 5 2004, 11:07 AM
redshift   Uhoh... I just fopund out something that I have wo...   Sep 5 2004, 11:13 AM
jimtab   <...   Sep 5 2004, 11:36 AM
lapuwali  
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airsix   <...   Sep 5 2004, 12:19 PM
mike_the_man   Back to the Lotus thing here, my buddy has a Europ...   Sep 5 2004, 03:07 PM
mike_the_man   Is that a very dusty 914 fender?   Sep 5 2004, 03:10 PM
thesey914   <...   Sep 5 2004, 03:10 PM
winnkhan   i read that the elise will be priced @ 38,000 not ...   Sep 5 2004, 04:31 PM
redshift   Qarl's Elise will be $52k, he is getting ...   Sep 5 2004, 05:20 PM
Aaron Cox   <...   Sep 5 2004, 07:23 PM
redshift   I'm stalled   Sep 5 2004, 07:50 PM
Sammy   Caution, Lotus rant ahead, don't read if you l...   Sep 6 2004, 09:04 AM
lapuwali   Lotuses were not particularly badly engineered com...   Sep 6 2004, 09:23 AM


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