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> Blue Porscheru Conversion, Subaru 2.5 SOHC NA with Suby Tranny
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post Jul 25 2015, 11:09 PM
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Blue Porscheru Conversion

I started this project back in May of 2014 and wanted to share the journey with my friends and family.
There's something appealing to people about taking a left-for-dead vehicle and bringing it back to life.
I hope this build thread is a bit different than the others. It's a Subaru conversion which is not as common.

I am/was a newbie. This is my first car restoration, if you can call it that.
My welds are not pretty, but I've improved and learned throughout this process.
This is a great car for a first restoration. It's light, simple, and very cool- mid engine with a targa top.

This is the plan-
We are starting with a 1971 tangerine 914 with light to moderate rust, nothing too serious.
The original engine was a 1.7. Like so many other 914's it ran but has been sitting for a long time.
The engine seems too far gone to try to rebuild it= lots of rust and corrosion.

Powerplant: 2003 Subaru Impreza TS 2.5 SOHC, Natuaral- No Turbo, Why? Plenty of Power for me and no turbo lag. See Engine Choices thread.
Transmission: Subaru 5MT 2003 Impreza TS
ECU from: 2003 Subaru Impreza TS
Electronics: Wiring Harness simplified by Small Car Performance
Axles: 944 axles and CV's with Subaru inside CV- 4 lug for now.
914 suspension.
No fender flares
Voltage Blue Metallic: (Honda color), Painted Sail Panels.

Before Pictures

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The Future Look- Concepts

The 914 visualizer, a very cool app.

Current Look:

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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.imgur.com-17072-1607919165.3.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1301.photobucket.com-17072-1459666779.1.jpg)



Contents

Axles
Blasting Glass Bead Videos
Battery Tray Area
Battery and Tray
Budget Scenarios
Brakes
Bumper - Valence
Clutch
Electronics
Engine Discussion
Engine Mount
Engine Work
Floor Pans and Engman Kit
Fuel Pump
Fuel Tank (Cleaning with Electrolysis)
Paint Prep and Metal Work
Paint Prep Continued
Radiator
Seats and Interior
Seats Re-upholstery Links
Transmission
Transmission Mount
Videos

This thread is for entertainment purposes only. I am not a certified mechanic.
There are many that have pioneered the suby conversion before me, but this
is my story.

Hope you enjoy this thread!

Chris

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Electrolysis Gas Tank Cleaning.

Like so many other 914's mine had a rusty fuel tank. Cleaning the inside of the gas tank is tricky since you can't reach in and sand it, so after some research I tried lots of different suggestions to try to clean it. One could combine weight training with car antiquing and shake a chain or nails or whatever inside the tank. I tried acid ie apple vinegar. None of these things seemed to work until I came across electrolysis. This is a very interesting technique. Anyone who has tried precipitating silver in chemistry class might be familiar with this technique. You take a piece of steel and suspend it in water in your gas tank with some baking soda as catalyst and it moves the rust from your tank into the water. It's pulling electrons and iron from the metal and combining it with the rust metal to create a liquid suspended iron.

My stepfather, professor emeritus in chemistry at St. Mary's College in CA explains electrolysis thus:

"Some of us used it as an introduction to electrolysis in early classes – and I believe it is still used in museums as a conservation process to “clean” up relics to remove rust without losing the underlying metal."

"You first of all have to understand the rusting process. In overall terms it is simply, iron + water + oxygen -----~ rust. However, the first step is Fe (solid) + 2 water +1 oxygen -----~2 Fe(+2) + 4OH(-). Depending on the environment, additional reactions take place, leading to the observation that most forms of rust are basically 2Fe(+3)3O(-2).xwater; this is a hard material which binds to the unoxidized metal."

"Essentially what has happened overall is the removal of electrons from the iron; that is in chemical terms you have oxidized it. To remove the rust you can reduce it; that is, give the electrons back. These set-ups that you’re working with seem to work, but the exact mechanism isn’t clear. In your case the electrons will move from the anode Fe (i.e. the steel chunk) over to the tank which needs them to convert the Fe(+3) to Fe. The chemical reactions that occur during electrolyis are complicated since both iron oxides and water can be reduced (to hydrogen in the case of water), so specific reactions can’t be written but the appearance of bubbles is usually a sign of hydrogen. The iron from the steel chunks slowly disappears over a period of time as Fe is converted to Fe (+3) and the rust should flake off the cathode as a dusty material which probably has metallic iron mixed in. Make sure your anode (+) has a good connection to your steel chunk."

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Lots of links and videos on this page.

Cleaning the tank. I used a trickle charger for a couple weeks, but it was only 2 amps of power. If I did this again I would get a battery charger and try different settings for a faster process, but I was not in a big hurry. This process works great for removing rust, especially with odd shaped pieces like the pedal cluster and gas tank.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1301.photobucket.com-17072-1438839746.1.jpg)

Here's another shot of the tank:

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1301.photobucket.com-17072-1438839746.2.jpg)

I was also able to use electolysis on the pedal cluster. In this case I dumped the cluster into a 5 gallon bucket of water and hooked up the leeds, negative to the pedal and positive to some scrap suspended into the water. Add baking soda and wait, rinse and repeat. Works great.

Maybe I will try some plating which is shown in some of those videos. Anyone have experience with plating or electolysis??
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R_u_dd   Blue Porscheru Conversion   Jul 25 2015, 11:09 PM
R_u_dd   Favorite Subaru Conversion Threads: Subaru Engine...   Jul 25 2015, 11:56 PM
R_u_dd   Subaru Engine Choices - Notes from various posters...   Jul 26 2015, 12:52 AM
aircooledtechguy   Good stuff in here. Thanks. I look forward to wa...   Jul 26 2015, 06:42 AM
Andyrew   Great starter thread! Cant wait to see the wor...   Jul 26 2015, 08:03 AM
R_u_dd   Budget Planning 2015 costs A good friend told me ...   Jul 26 2015, 02:17 PM
mepstein   Paint for $1000 - ? Missing a "0"? ...   Jul 26 2015, 02:25 PM
R_u_dd   Paint for $1000 - ? Missing a "0"?...   Jul 26 2015, 03:35 PM
Andyrew   Paint for $1000 - ? Missing a "0"?...   Jul 27 2015, 09:40 AM
R_u_dd   Floor Pans One of the first tasks was to replace ...   Jul 26 2015, 03:21 PM
R_u_dd   Electronics When you think about it... it's ...   Jul 26 2015, 11:28 PM
76-914   :Qarl: Another frigging Subarite! Welcome to t...   Jul 27 2015, 05:58 PM
R_u_dd   :Qarl: Another frigging Subarite! Welcome to ...   Jul 27 2015, 06:53 PM
rhodyguy   Wow! Great thread. Warrants a trip to the ...   Jul 27 2015, 06:14 PM
Mike Bellis   Grafting two electrical systems is not that hard i...   Jul 27 2015, 07:04 PM
JRust   Just for a reference. I bought the Sawtooth build ...   Jul 27 2015, 07:50 PM
R_u_dd   Just for a reference. I bought the Sawtooth build...   Jul 29 2015, 08:28 AM
DBCooper   I would assume both engines would lose a proportio...   Jul 29 2015, 09:21 AM
Andyrew   Read the first half of my progress thread for pain...   Jul 28 2015, 08:11 AM
R_u_dd   Read the first half of my progress thread for pai...   Jul 29 2015, 08:31 AM
Andyrew   I really like your thread ([url=http://www.914w...   Jul 29 2015, 01:10 PM
R_u_dd   Blasting After hours of sanding and slow progress...   Jul 29 2015, 10:46 PM
R_u_dd   Engine Work Related Threads: Christmas in April ...   Jul 30 2015, 12:11 AM
mgp4591   Do you have the cast engine bracket or the other s...   Jul 30 2015, 12:28 AM
R_u_dd   Do you have the cast engine bracket or the other ...   Jul 30 2015, 10:18 PM
mgp4591   Do you have the cast engine bracket or the other...   Jul 30 2015, 10:29 PM
914forme   I thought I'd studied that thread over and o...   Aug 1 2015, 07:08 AM
DBCooper   :poke: If you read my thread, I think you will g...   Aug 1 2015, 07:55 AM
mgp4591   :poke: If you read my thread, I think you will ...   Aug 5 2015, 11:57 PM
DBCooper   Did you sell your Smallcar engine mount after you...   Aug 6 2015, 07:45 AM
mgp4591   Did you sell your Smallcar engine mount after yo...   Sep 26 2015, 01:59 PM
R_u_dd   [quote name='mgp4591' post='2217009' date='Jul 31...   Aug 1 2015, 11:19 AM
914forme   The Small Car mounts are pretty robust steel. If ...   Jul 30 2015, 11:19 AM
mgp4591   The Small Car mounts are pretty robust steel. If...   Jul 30 2015, 10:32 PM
sean_v8_914   that blue 914 pic is at my shop...many years ago. ...   Jul 30 2015, 12:53 PM
R_u_dd   that blue 914 pic is at my shop...many years ago....   Jul 30 2015, 10:31 PM
whitetwinturbo   Pictures! :coolpics:   Jul 30 2015, 12:55 PM
R_u_dd   Pictures! :coolpics: The blue car on post #...   Jul 30 2015, 10:29 PM
R_u_dd   Battery Tray Area Rehab Most people might conside...   Aug 1 2015, 12:52 AM
R_u_dd   Cool Videos Porsche 914-6 Race Practice At Targa ...   Aug 1 2015, 01:41 PM
R_u_dd   Electrolysis Gas Tank Cleaning. Like so many othe...   Aug 5 2015, 11:42 PM
R_u_dd   Paint Prep and Final Metal Work After the Bead Bl...   Sep 11 2015, 08:33 PM
DBCooper   You're doing great work. That's a really ...   Sep 11 2015, 09:00 PM
zambezi   should have fixed the rust on the inside wheel wel...   Sep 12 2015, 09:10 AM
R_u_dd   Engine Mount The inspiration for the engine mount...   Sep 26 2015, 11:41 AM
shoguneagle   HOW DID THIS THREAD ESCAPE ME? I thought I kinda ...   Sep 27 2015, 04:16 AM
R_u_dd   HOW DID THIS THREAD ESCAPE ME? I thought I kinda...   Sep 27 2015, 06:12 AM
R_u_dd   Radiator Some background and research: Radiator ...   Sep 27 2015, 07:20 AM
JRust   Wow that radiator does look really small. I've...   Sep 27 2015, 04:58 PM
R_u_dd   Wow that radiator does look really small. I'v...   Sep 27 2015, 05:03 PM
Chris H.   Wow that radiator does look really small. I'v...   Sep 27 2015, 07:25 PM
914forme   Griffen rates that rad at 600HP with their electri...   Sep 27 2015, 05:28 PM
R_u_dd   Griffen rates that rad at 600HP with their electr...   Sep 27 2015, 08:17 PM
Mike Bellis   I'm worried about your engine mount. My rotary...   Sep 27 2015, 07:36 PM
R_u_dd   I'm worried about your engine mount. My rotar...   Sep 27 2015, 08:16 PM
Mike Bellis   [quote name='Mike Bellis' post='2244152' date='Se...   Sep 27 2015, 08:33 PM
R_u_dd   Transmission Mount From the Subaru 5MT Transmissi...   Oct 10 2015, 12:48 PM
76-914   Smart move. :D Your moving right along. Looks lik...   Oct 10 2015, 06:02 PM
R_u_dd   Axles http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsi...   Nov 14 2015, 05:48 PM
DBCooper   I'd say you're too far. You say it's ...   Nov 14 2015, 06:24 PM
R_u_dd   I'd say you're too far. You say it's...   Nov 14 2015, 09:04 PM
DBCooper   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i255....   Nov 14 2015, 10:28 PM
R_u_dd   To know about max angles give Sway-a-Way a call....   Nov 14 2015, 11:37 PM
DBCooper   That's my son's car. It uses a Coldwater ...   Nov 15 2015, 08:16 AM
R_u_dd   Also a WRX but unfortunately the previous owner d...   Nov 15 2015, 09:40 AM
DBCooper   Also a WRX but unfortunately the previous owner ...   Nov 15 2015, 09:54 AM
R_u_dd   And those Sway-a-ways were later swapped out for ...   Nov 15 2015, 07:42 PM
76-914   :agree:   Nov 15 2015, 05:03 PM
R_u_dd   [size=3]Calculating the Angle of the CV joint. [u...   Nov 15 2015, 10:18 PM
R_u_dd   Bumper The idea with the bumper was to deflect ai...   Feb 13 2016, 04:12 PM
ahycaramba   I can't wait to see your finished product on t...   Feb 16 2016, 03:39 AM
R_u_dd   Seats and Interior After much deliberation, I hav...   Feb 13 2016, 04:59 PM
R_u_dd   Seats and Re-Upholstery info: Re-Upholstery-Auto...   Feb 13 2016, 09:54 PM
veekry9   I'm glad you like it. I drew this largemouth l...   Feb 14 2016, 12:48 PM
R_u_dd   Yes, I really like that look for the form and func...   Feb 14 2016, 04:31 PM
veekry9   https://www.gimp.org/ Some people can use a camer...   Feb 14 2016, 11:01 PM
R_u_dd   Paint Prep Continued... The metal work and prepar...   Feb 28 2016, 10:52 AM
914forme   Interesting fender cut outs, I like them   Mar 1 2016, 08:01 PM
R_u_dd   Yes the radiator vent holes. I figured that the tr...   Mar 2 2016, 11:40 PM
whitetwinturbo   :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:   Mar 2 2016, 11:58 PM
R_u_dd   Painting Begins I can't wait to post these ph...   Mar 27 2016, 11:01 AM
R_u_dd   We got some paint on the panels yesterday and clea...   Apr 2 2016, 11:27 PM
ahycaramba   Great progress!!! Looking good!...   Apr 2 2016, 11:34 PM
R_u_dd   Great progress!!! Looking good!...   Apr 2 2016, 11:45 PM
whitetwinturbo   :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:   Apr 3 2016, 01:46 PM
R_u_dd   The big reveal today. Scott finished the logo. H...   Apr 6 2016, 10:53 PM
914forme   The big reveal today. [center][img]http://www.91...   Apr 7 2016, 08:43 AM
whitetwinturbo   :headbanger: :headbanger: :headbanger:   Apr 6 2016, 11:15 PM
Andyrew   That looks great!!!   Apr 7 2016, 09:15 AM
R_u_dd   The painting is almost finished. We cut and buffe...   Apr 24 2016, 11:53 PM
R_u_dd   Rocker Panels (They look like a pair of skis, don...   Apr 25 2016, 09:50 PM
JRust   Love the blue bud. I even like the logo you made u...   Apr 25 2016, 10:07 PM
R_u_dd   Love the blue bud. I even like the logo you made ...   Apr 25 2016, 10:59 PM
JRust   Hey it's looking great man. I like the logo li...   Apr 25 2016, 11:29 PM
R_u_dd   Progress on the Blue Porscheru over the last coupl...   Jun 28 2016, 12:53 AM
falcor75   That looks great, love the badge details and the c...   Jun 28 2016, 01:12 AM
914forme   Cars coming together nicely :popcorn:   Jun 28 2016, 09:37 AM
R_u_dd   [b]Gauges, Gauges and More Gauges The original lo...   Oct 2 2016, 02:04 PM
76-914   [size=5][b]Gauges, Gauges and More Gauges The or...   Oct 3 2016, 07:59 AM
veekry9   Very nice indeed. :D / I like this tre...   Oct 2 2016, 02:33 PM
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