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> Signal Single Orange 74 EG33 Swap, Gone but not forgotten
914forme
post Sep 25 2013, 07:47 PM
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Okay this is the car in all its glory ugly as heck, but hey its an auto-x car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/new_shocked.gif) This one is from my first season of auto-x with this car.

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Heres what it looks like today. Made it even uglier (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

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Here is the goal, I can sketch ideas, but I can not draw at the level of others on this forum. Thank you 914 Visulizer. and my black pen. Now if I could find a good front view. And the flares are not on the car since I'm not using GT Flares.

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But you get the general idea.
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post Aug 14 2015, 03:14 AM
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Big injectors come fairly easy, I all ready have a set, forgot what car they came from. Nissan I think, well documented modification.

Bigger MAP is also an easy mod. Again a Nissan product.

Exhaust is the pain, and I contend it will only do you little good, because the cams are the limiting factor on this engine. You can spend the money for cams it will really bring this N/A engine up to mark. And yes the EG is built like a tank, 7 full Mains.

I read the write ups on the Green Car above. Not of Forrest's car. For me drivability is key. Low boast does put a bandaid on the cam issue. And as Scott says you got the room do something cool with it. A turbo also cuts down exhaust issues. Yes I have to build a custom header, that was already in the plans. That little spinning impeller helps knock out a lot of noise, which means I might be able to reduce muffler sizes and gain that all to critical item of space in the back of the 914. With the Subaru transmission space back their is still at a premium. And you loose the capability to use a larger Muffler like a 911 banana, or even sport style. at least on my car, even wit the engine being pushed forward as far as I could go.

Here is the key for me, I will do this in baby steps anyway. Stock EG3.3 with flipped manifold will go into the car. I will have all the lines ran for things like interceding, Larger Fuel, lines, and the like. Planning ahead. The basis for all the additions will be their, I can take my mockup engine and build it. Maybe as an N/A engine with Cams and all the tricks. 300HP N/A running on pump gas, or more on E85 would be a very nice 914 to drive around in, and especially on the auto-x. Do not want to get out of balance.

But you all know the power bug gets to people. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) And once you have 225HP, you get used to it. So 300Hp seems like a good step, you get used to that. Pretty soon, your thinking this car needs 350, 400, 500, 650, 800, 1000.

It is a slippery slope I have been down many times.
I drive TDIs as my daily driver cars. The one before this one was an insane built car. Still got 45 mpg as the day was long. But in the end I had a tune so wild, my wife was scared to drive it. I could light them up in the first 3 gears. If I got stuck in stupid traffic, the thing was a bitch to drive stop and go. As it would load up. So you would have to build enough space to let it rev a little. Which meant I was laying 11s every time traffic started to flow. Not to mention, the huge puff I would leave behind. Made me look like I was a total ass of a driver with road rage issues. I was not, just trying to keep the car running correctly. That last iteration of Jetta TDI ran a custom Malone Tune, huge hybrid turbo,DC auto front intercooler, only one they built for a 6-speed TDI. European PD 150 intake parts, cams, and injectors etc. And a full 3" exhaust that was a straight pipe. Dinky on the build was only 245HP, with a TDI its all about torque, I was at almost 550 FtP with boast pooping up, at 35PSI. We cranked the boast up to 45 for a while. Car was dysfunctional! Don't even know the kind of power I was making at that point. EG temps where alarming though, so took it back down to 35.

I had all the stuff to do it correctly, full GLI suspension and brakes, Large tires, hurt my fuel milage, and a Perloguin LSD. A very stiff South Bend Clutch, that gave my left leg a work out. Great car, the drivability and the fact that a highly tuned car takes a lot of maintenance for a daily drive caused me to sell it. It was fun to take people for rides in, it really need to be AWD, and if VW group would bring an AWD TDI over in a Golf or Jeta, or even A3, I would be buying the first used one I could find.

See it every now and again, usual passing me. And think man I wish I had that car again. So my current one, love the car, wish I had GLI suspension and brakes, and Seats, but I will keep it at a sane level of tune. Once factory warranty is out the door, I'll add a Molone tune to it. And drive it with the little extra that gives me and be happy.

Yeah right (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

Tonight back to the mundane part of the build, making templates and cutting metal to fix the hell hole area. Maybe I'll get into so more fun, as I have to make a few mods to tunnel exist in the engine bay. Mine is solid, but I need to close up a few exists and add a few more entrances.

The lines running front to back are getting crazy.
Fuel x2
Water x2
A/C x2
Clutch
Brake
Battery
Electrical Harness
Engine Harness
Throttle Cable
Heater?
Intercooler x2
Cable Shifter

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914forme   Signal Single Orange 74 EG33 Swap   Sep 25 2013, 07:47 PM
914forme   History: After looking for 6 months I found this ...   Sep 25 2013, 07:47 PM
914forme   The Plan: Make this thing like Steve Austin. The...   Sep 25 2013, 07:48 PM
turk22   I like the plan, the visualizer is nice, orange an...   Sep 25 2013, 08:01 PM
914forme   This weekend I pulled the torsion bar adjuster off...   Sep 25 2013, 08:09 PM
914forme   The rears fair much better. As I already did flar...   Sep 25 2013, 08:21 PM
kg6dxn   You may want to get thinner front spacers to reduc...   Sep 25 2013, 08:29 PM
914forme   You may want to get thinner front spacers to redu...   Sep 25 2013, 08:38 PM
mepstein   Its an H33 from a Subaru SVX, that I have just pic...   Sep 25 2013, 08:42 PM
ConeDodger   You better have a whole bunch of power in that sco...   Sep 26 2013, 01:42 PM
Woody   You better have a whole bunch of power in that sc...   Sep 26 2013, 02:23 PM
914forme   I know y'alls hearts are in the right place, I...   Sep 26 2013, 05:05 PM
914forme   All the basic parts are in for the cable shifter. ...   Sep 26 2013, 05:15 PM
ConeDodger   Not just the heavy... It's the diameter. If yo...   Sep 26 2013, 05:32 PM
914forme   Not just the heavy... It's the diameter. If y...   Sep 26 2013, 08:25 PM
ConeDodger   Not just the heavy... It's the diameter. If ...   Sep 26 2013, 08:47 PM
914forme   And now for the rest of the good bits. The OBX ha...   Sep 26 2013, 05:38 PM
rick 918-S   Can you re-drill the centerlines? I did that to a ...   Sep 26 2013, 09:38 PM
914forme   Can you re-drill the centerlines? I did that to a...   Sep 27 2013, 06:59 AM
FourBlades   Nice build! :smash: Looking forward to see...   Sep 27 2013, 07:53 AM
914forme   Ha found wheel weights for 8.5"x15" Cent...   Sep 27 2013, 10:33 AM
914forme   Only got a work a little Saterday, and maybe an ho...   Sep 29 2013, 08:22 PM
914forme   Started working on the rotisserie. I should have ...   Sep 29 2013, 08:33 PM
914forme   Not much has happened over the last weekend. Life...   Oct 8 2013, 10:40 AM
Woody   You'll have a hard time finding a tire to run ...   Oct 8 2013, 12:24 PM
914forme   You'll have a hard time finding a tire to run...   Oct 8 2013, 12:34 PM
914forme   Okay things change in the world. Centerline-ish w...   Oct 31 2013, 03:21 PM
914forme   Gathering the parts to do a 108mm rear CV swap int...   Oct 31 2013, 03:36 PM
914forme   My how time moves :blink: Decided to get some p...   Apr 23 2014, 06:59 AM
Chris H.   How did I miss this one? Did you get that donor c...   Apr 23 2014, 09:36 AM
914forme   How did I miss this one? Did you get that donor ...   Apr 23 2014, 11:09 AM
Chris H.   Wow. Yeah that would have been terrible. I'l...   Apr 23 2014, 12:29 PM
914forme   Yeah I saw the Super charger unit looked neat. Si...   Apr 23 2014, 02:03 PM
914forme   Okay well now lets continue down the long path of ...   Apr 23 2014, 06:40 PM
gryphon68   Still have a long way to go. Rinse and Repeat 40...   Feb 16 2015, 10:30 AM
914forme   Still have a long way to go. Rinse and Repeat 4...   Feb 17 2015, 11:07 AM
914forme   And I started working on the rotisserie again. Ma...   Apr 23 2014, 06:57 PM
914forme   Okay Post Lady brought me these today. This is a ...   Apr 23 2014, 07:16 PM
Amenson   Wow, of all of the great details in your build thr...   Apr 24 2014, 10:59 AM
914forme   Wow, of all of the great details in your build th...   Apr 24 2014, 05:54 PM
Chris H.   When you put a flat piece of glass on the 924 gaug...   Apr 24 2014, 06:20 PM
914forme   When you put a flat piece of glass on the 924 gau...   Apr 24 2014, 06:44 PM
914forme   For todays update, I am tired of drilling holes fo...   Apr 24 2014, 06:37 PM
914forme   If I use this piece, I will need to redo the arche...   Apr 24 2014, 06:50 PM
Chris H.   Hey that's cool Stephen....great idea. I...   Apr 24 2014, 06:54 PM
914forme   Yeah, now that the word is out Chris, you might wa...   Apr 24 2014, 07:00 PM
914forme   Rotisseri has been complete :welder: I used a s...   May 20 2014, 07:14 PM
dan_the _body_guy   Rotisseri has been complete :welder: I used a ...   May 20 2014, 07:34 PM
914forme   A lot has happened since I updated this thread. S...   Feb 7 2015, 07:36 PM
mgp4591   Oh yeah... :popcorn:   Feb 8 2015, 07:05 AM
914forme   I was told today I need to start posting more in m...   Feb 12 2015, 05:08 PM
altitude411   Just get new ones from 914rubber... http://shop.91...   Feb 12 2015, 05:55 PM
914forme   So this weekend I got busy on engine mount, and tr...   Feb 17 2015, 11:23 AM
914forme   Now making my first bad design I wanted to use so ...   Feb 17 2015, 11:48 AM
914forme   Yesterday I got a set of wheels I have been waitin...   Feb 19 2015, 11:36 AM
914forme   spent the day finishing stripping the car. Doors ...   Feb 21 2015, 06:41 PM
Chris H.   Meant to post this...very pricey, but the Rocky Mo...   Feb 21 2015, 07:29 PM
914forme   Chris, Man them guys are expensive, and yes I have...   Feb 22 2015, 07:20 PM
mgp4591   Failed SD card is no excuse... still needs picture...   Feb 22 2015, 10:57 PM
Chris H.   Yeah re: the RMW intake...the part I don't get...   Feb 23 2015, 07:45 AM
914forme   Bad SD Card reader / cable. :angry: I tossed some...   Feb 23 2015, 07:57 AM
914forme   Its been cold around here -15 the other day, and I...   Feb 25 2015, 08:11 PM
914forme   Old man winter did not keep me out of the shop yes...   Mar 1 2015, 01:27 PM
914forme   Works been hell this last week, so time for some 9...   Mar 7 2015, 05:23 PM
Dave_Darling   I hope you marked the "rest" position of...   Mar 7 2015, 07:42 PM
914forme   I hope you marked the "rest" position o...   Mar 8 2015, 10:00 AM
914forme   My wife had a 1990 Miata, I added a bunch of goodi...   Jun 27 2015, 11:31 AM
Amenson   Stephen, I was reading your post and all I could t...   Jun 28 2015, 08:34 AM
Chris H.   Stephen...come back to the reservation... DON...   Jun 28 2015, 10:26 AM
914forme   Scott, not to worry I talked with my wife this mor...   Jun 28 2015, 05:40 PM
Amenson   Scott, not to worry I talked with my wife this mo...   Jun 28 2015, 07:04 PM
914forme   :sawzall: :smash: :sawzall: The none fun stuff....   Jul 20 2015, 04:18 PM
Amenson   :sawzall: :smash: :sawzall: The none fun stuff...   Jul 21 2015, 08:43 AM
914forme   Hmm, so I was reading the ForSale ad for the RS, s...   Jul 28 2015, 05:42 PM
76-914   :poke: About time that you got busy again. :stir:...   Jul 28 2015, 06:56 PM
914forme   Not sure the guys name, I can't retrieve it cu...   Jul 28 2015, 07:37 PM
mepstein   I thought craig at camp914 had done the RS tail li...   Jul 28 2015, 08:31 PM
914forme   Place called AR Concepts seems to have done them, ...   Jul 29 2015, 05:41 PM
914forme   Got the wrecked Miata out of the shop, hoping the ...   Jul 31 2015, 06:18 PM
76-914   How close is your starter terminal to the chassis....   Jul 31 2015, 06:42 PM
914forme   Yes thank you, I think I tested that, but maybe I ...   Aug 1 2015, 04:35 AM
914forme   First of Miata sold, one less temptress in my life...   Aug 1 2015, 05:34 PM
Andyrew   An now for an idea, well two really. Pink id...   Aug 2 2015, 11:13 PM
914forme   Finished cutting and grinding all the engine shelf...   Aug 2 2015, 05:50 PM
Amenson   With all that cleared out of the way there is plen...   Aug 3 2015, 07:54 AM
Chris H.   With all that cleared out of the way there is ple...   Aug 12 2015, 09:29 PM
jd74914   Speaking of turbo'd EG33's...anyone seen ...   Aug 13 2015, 01:10 PM
914forme   [quote name='Chris H.' post='2222585' date='Aug 1...   Aug 13 2015, 07:13 PM
mgp4591   [quote name='Chris H.' post='2222585' date='Aug ...   Aug 13 2015, 08:52 PM
914forme   :agree: I have my plans still trying to figure o...   Aug 5 2015, 07:06 PM
914forme   Weekend and back into the shop, long slow process ...   Aug 10 2015, 06:28 AM
3d914   Templates are a good thing. I will be doing so...   Aug 15 2015, 10:49 AM
mepstein   Are you removing the engine bar motor mounts.   Aug 10 2015, 06:57 AM
914forme   Nope, using a Small Car Mount and an early -4 engi...   Aug 10 2015, 07:15 AM
mepstein   I'll be pretty happy with the stock eg33 - hp....   Aug 13 2015, 08:59 PM
mgp4591   I'll be pretty happy with the stock eg33 - hp...   Aug 13 2015, 10:29 PM
914forme   :agree: Big injectors come fairly easy, I all re...   Aug 14 2015, 03:14 AM
Chris H.   Wow Steve, I should just copy this last post of yo...   Aug 15 2015, 08:37 AM
914forme   Chris, not sure about the dual MAFs, unless you pu...   Aug 15 2015, 03:12 PM
914forme   Today's Progress: Finished Hell Hole Template...   Aug 15 2015, 07:22 PM
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