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MikeM
post Aug 17 2015, 01:40 PM
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Hi all...many of you have helped me try to find a vibration/shimmy in my car in past posts. Today as I was studying my records for this car, I looked at the last alignment printout. It shows NO front toe. As in - 0.12 degrees. Both sides. I think spec is like 20 minutes, or about 0.33 degrees.
Could this be the cause of my shimmy? What does NO TOE feel like?
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Mike
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post Aug 17 2015, 03:31 PM
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I worked in an alignment shop when I was young. No, toe by itself won't cause shimmy, that's true, but it will exacerbate anything loose in the front end and let it vibrate in a harmonic, or shimmy. For example with wheel bearings a little loose the zero toe will let the tires track freely, so any bearing movement will let the tires hunt just a bit from side to side as the slack in the bearings allows, and at certain speeds you'll get a shimmy. In that same car with all else equal and a good bit of toe added the bearings will be slightly stressed from the bit of tire scrub that was added, which will put pressure on the bearings and you won't get the shimmy. It'll still happen occasionally when you hit a ripple in the pavement or whatever, but it'll be occasional.

Look, the only reasons for shimmy are something being loose, out of balance or not rolling true. You can guess and replace parts, and invite other people to guess all day long, but until you get someone involved with the car who understands alignment everything you do will still just be guesses. Go to a GOOD alignment shop, they're the people who deal with everyone's "shimmy" problems, and have them diagnose it for you. No guessing.
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MikeM   No Toe?   Aug 17 2015, 01:40 PM
SLITS   The car will wander on the road ... straight line ...   Aug 17 2015, 01:49 PM
jd74914   I'm not sure what stock spec is, but it is def...   Aug 17 2015, 01:49 PM
MikeM   You're right of course. Not 10 degrees, I thin...   Aug 17 2015, 01:52 PM
MikeM   Jeff Bowlsby's specs say 20 min. plus or minus...   Aug 17 2015, 02:05 PM
SirAndy   I run 2 mm toe out in the front and 1 mm toe in in...   Aug 17 2015, 02:17 PM
Dave_Darling   What are you doing with the car? Track, autoX, st...   Aug 17 2015, 02:19 PM
Mark Henry   Toe would not cause the shimmy. Unless it was cam...   Aug 17 2015, 02:22 PM
MikeM   The car is a street only car. Yes, I assume the ne...   Aug 17 2015, 02:37 PM
DBCooper   I worked in an alignment shop when I was young. N...   Aug 17 2015, 03:31 PM
MikeM   DB...good points and I thank you for them!...   Aug 17 2015, 03:37 PM
Mark Henry   DB...good points and I thank you for them!...   Aug 17 2015, 07:15 PM
MikeM   Bump please....   Aug 17 2015, 06:59 PM
johnhora   Stock specs....   Aug 17 2015, 07:14 PM
johnhora   Mike....pm me your email and I will email you a ho...   Aug 17 2015, 07:23 PM
MikeM   Nope...no Canadian Tire for me.   Aug 17 2015, 07:51 PM
DBCooper   You don't necessarily need a 914 specialist, j...   Aug 18 2015, 08:03 AM
MikeM   I think I'll take it back to him and get him t...   Aug 18 2015, 08:14 AM
Geezer914   Take it to a good tire shop and have them speed ba...   Aug 18 2015, 12:30 PM


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