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post Aug 28 2015, 06:24 PM
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I would be curious,..with a EG33 conversion or the 2.5 Turbos 0-60 times and also Hi-Way cruising speeds,. could U cruise at say 100-120 MPH depending on Trany ( I Know ) but whats the common numbers for those car's,..Taking the plunge ASAP and I cant do it quick enough..!!

The flat 6 conversion,equals 1980's Ferrari performance numbers easy and then some,..
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post Aug 29 2015, 07:28 PM
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Sure, Andyrew, you're absolutely right, and I wasn't talking about your car but about those calculators in general. You're doing it right, but how many cars have a V8 or something in front of a 901? Without even mentioning breaking the 901 that stronger modern transmission you're putting in will have HALF the driveline loss and better ratios. Limited slip? Whatever, big difference, but that calculator treats them all the same. The results in those calculators are interesting but only vaguely related to the real world. That's why I see them as being fun for buddies kidding with their friends while drinking beer, but not much more than that.

I'm still surprised that no one's been to a drag strip. I know it's not standard Porsche milieu and T4 engined 914's aren't known for acceleration, but that's still the only standard performance measure that most of us will ever have access to, as opposed to bench-racing could's and should's. No big deal or anything, I'm just surprised.


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post Aug 29 2015, 10:25 PM
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I'm still surprised that no one's been to a drag strip. I know it's not standard Porsche milieu and T4 engined 914's aren't known for acceleration, but that's still the only standard performance measure that most of us will ever have access to, as opposed to bench-racing could's and should's. No big deal or anything, I'm just surprised.

Just not something i really care about ...
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post Aug 29 2015, 10:32 PM
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Yeah, so how do you know that? Have you ever tried it?

It's actually nice to know where you really stand. Numbers don't lie, the rest is all just talk.









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QUOTE(DBCooper @ Aug 29 2015, 09:32 PM) *
Yeah, so how do you know that? Have you ever tried it?
It's actually nice to know where you really stand. Numbers don't lie, the rest is all just talk.

Well, you assume i actually care about numbers, which i don't.

I just accidentally happened to be at the right place at the right time to get some timed 0-60 runs.
I'd be perfectly fine not knowing.

Straight line acceleration has never been of any interest to me ...
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Aug 30 2015, 12:48 AM) *

Straight line acceleration has never been of any interest to me ...


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I worry too about breaking something trying to go through the gears at full throttle especially in my 930. Seen too many amateurs put their cars into the walls or break something at drag strips. I don't want to be one of them.
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Cool, Bob, I hadn't seen those. Fast cars. VERY fast cars. You too Andyrew, I didn't know that. Very cool.

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I worry too about breaking something trying to go through the gears at full throttle especially in my 930. Seen too many amateurs put their cars into the walls or break something at drag strips. I don't want to be one of them.
But you go through the gears hard occasionally on rural country roads or freeway on ramps, don't you? It's no different that that, but safer.

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Did you put in all that extra horsepower to be quicker through the corners?

I did it for the fun of it, not because of some arbitrary numbers.

Fun as in "Fahrvergnügen". The joy you get out of driving a motorized vehicle.
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Aw Andy.... you had some joy from your 2 liter too, but it wasn't enough, you wanted more horsepower. And where do you use horsepower? Down the straights, because that's more fahrvergnugen than a 2 liter, surely? And you do timed autocrosses, right? Those numbers are even more arbitrary.

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Mark Donahue did well driving one as well as the Javelin....
Absolutely. And not dissing AMX's, I actually saw him in that red/white/blue car out here in California in the first year of the TransAm series, but from what I remember it was harder to make them go fast than some of the other cars.


No point, I guess, but now I'm even more intrigued.


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And you do timed autocrosses, right? Those numbers are even more arbitrary.

Wrong. The timed runs at an auto cross are about me and not about the car.
Big difference.

I use AX timing to improve my driving skills, not to measure my cars HP/torque/acceleration ...
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I use AX timing to improve my driving skills, not to measure my cars HP/torque/acceleration ...
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So you're not at all competitive, and never compare your times with your buddies? Ever?

Also seems unfortunate that since the course changes a little (or a lot) each time you can't use your times to evaluate changes made to your car, like to find out if adding a couple of hundred horses makes your car quicker... or slower, and by how much. I was pretty curious about that with my car, anyway.

At the end of the day it doesn't really make any difference either way. I'm curious about what seems to be an aversion to drag racing, just like i'm curious about the aversion to putting non-Porsche engines into these cars. Are those typical "Porsche" things, or something else, and why? When I was younger there was a gulf between hot rodders and sports car people, and I never really understood why. Is this that? I'm just curious, not really important in the big picture.




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QUOTE(DBCooper @ Aug 31 2015, 06:56 PM) *
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I use AX timing to improve my driving skills, not to measure my cars HP/torque/acceleration ...
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So you're not at all competitive, and never compare your times with your buddies? Ever?

I'm competitive but since i don't have any "buddies" that would be a NO on the time comparing front.

Sure, i'll try to beat other drivers times at an AX, but the improvement comes from the driver, not the car.
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flmont   Fastest Subie conversion,. 0-60 times   Aug 28 2015, 06:24 PM
Mueller   I would be curious,..with a EG33 conversion or th...   Aug 28 2015, 06:34 PM
SirAndy   Dunno anything about subies but i was clocked at u...   Aug 28 2015, 06:36 PM
IanJ   http://www.060calculator.com/ That does a fairly ...   Aug 28 2015, 06:39 PM
DBCooper   Don't know my 0-60 but that calculator puts me...   Aug 28 2015, 06:57 PM
SirAndy   Curious Andy, have you ever done a timed quarter? ...   Aug 28 2015, 08:03 PM
Chris H.   Andy has been clocked at least once at 105 with pr...   Aug 28 2015, 07:03 PM
flmont   WOW,..under 4 I bet is great,..that is a VERY expe...   Aug 28 2015, 07:16 PM
flmont   OH,.Yea I could Mueller,..but with all the differe...   Aug 28 2015, 07:25 PM
Mueller   OH,.Yea I could Mueller,..but with all the differ...   Aug 28 2015, 07:47 PM
iamchappy   Calculator puts mine at 2.8   Aug 28 2015, 07:30 PM
SirAndy   Stock 901 transmission so i top out at around 135i...   Aug 28 2015, 08:02 PM
DBCooper   Never been able to do this for longer periods of ...   Aug 28 2015, 08:23 PM
flmont   I wish I could do a 3.6..but,.. I can do 3or 4 sub...   Aug 28 2015, 08:19 PM
flmont   Isnt that the stretch of Hi Way they use to close ...   Aug 28 2015, 08:28 PM
flmont   DB..what kind of trany do u use,...   Aug 28 2015, 08:32 PM
DBCooper   DB..what kind of trany do u use,... Subaru five...   Aug 28 2015, 10:31 PM
Chris914n6   F quotes... Stock bodied car, the rear floats ove...   Aug 28 2015, 09:39 PM
Andyrew   It says ill be at 2.5 seconds... I know that aint ...   Aug 29 2015, 08:52 AM
DBCooper   Yeah, that's the problem with simulators and c...   Aug 29 2015, 10:04 AM
Andyrew   Yeah, that's the problem with simulators and ...   Aug 29 2015, 06:27 PM
flmont   Oh,..iam sorry.. DB....I watched that whole damn v...   Aug 29 2015, 03:07 PM
DBCooper   Sure, Andyrew, you're absolutely right, and I ...   Aug 29 2015, 07:28 PM
SirAndy   I'm still surprised that no one's been to ...   Aug 29 2015, 10:25 PM
DBCooper   Yeah, so how do you know that? Have you ever trie...   Aug 29 2015, 10:32 PM
SirAndy   Yeah, so how do you know that? Have you ever trie...   Aug 29 2015, 10:48 PM
mgp4591   Yeah, so how do you know that? Have you ever tri...   Aug 30 2015, 12:57 AM
DBCooper   And then to that point are you going to do all th...   Aug 30 2015, 07:01 AM
SirAndy   Did you put in all that extra horsepower to be qu...   Aug 30 2015, 12:30 PM
Spoke   Straight line acceleration has never been of any ...   Aug 30 2015, 08:01 AM
DBCooper   Cool, Bob, I hadn't seen those. Fast cars. V...   Aug 30 2015, 09:17 PM
SirAndy   And you do timed autocrosses, right? Those number...   Aug 31 2015, 11:16 AM
DBCooper   I use AX timing to improve my driving skills, not...   Aug 31 2015, 07:56 PM
SirAndy   I use AX timing to improve my driving skills, not ...   Aug 31 2015, 08:39 PM
iamchappy   I grew up with muscle cars in the 60s and 70s my b...   Aug 29 2015, 08:28 PM
DBCooper   I wouldn't brag too much about the AMC 390, :...   Aug 29 2015, 10:05 PM
914forme   And then to that point are you going to do all the...   Aug 30 2015, 03:11 AM
RobW   I still think an "AWD" 914 would be part...   Aug 30 2015, 07:20 AM
BIGKAT_83   A while back a member (wbergtho) posted about his ...   Aug 30 2015, 08:04 AM
mgp4591   A while back a member (wbergtho) posted about his...   Aug 31 2015, 02:04 AM
Andyrew   I've done a couple 1/4 mile tests in my car wi...   Aug 30 2015, 09:54 AM
iamchappy   Bill aka wbergtho gave me a ride in his car, unfor...   Aug 30 2015, 11:19 AM
flmont   I asked the question because a lot of car show...   Aug 30 2015, 01:39 PM
mgp4591   The whole 1/4 mile thing would be strictly run wha...   Aug 30 2015, 08:31 PM
matthepcat   Fastest Suby conversions, or any type for that mat...   Aug 30 2015, 10:06 PM
76-914   Right now, I am more concerned with how quickly I ...   Aug 31 2015, 08:10 PM
DBCooper   So how did putting in the six affect times, before...   Aug 31 2015, 08:56 PM
SirAndy   So how did putting in the six affect times, before...   Aug 31 2015, 09:41 PM
DBCooper   Boy Andy, it's really hard to fuch with you. ...   Aug 31 2015, 09:47 PM
SirAndy   [I'm not banned, am I?] :idea:   Aug 31 2015, 10:40 PM


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