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> My latest Megasquirt install, MS2 w/ITBs, wasted spark, relay board and custom harness
aircooledtechguy
post Sep 15 2015, 11:46 PM
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Megasquirt EFI is an amazingly capable system that is 100% tuneable. It is, however a mis-understood system and many of it's detractors have either not actually used it themselves or have used a cobbled together system of mis-matched parts. After 8 year of working with Megasquirt and doing installs, I have found that buying a complete, well engineered system with a quality harness is key to success. Also having an expert tuner can't hurt either.

Some may know that I work closely with Mario Velotta from The Dub Shop for all my Megasquirt parts and kits as well as tuning help. Here's a very typical install of one of his kits. You don't need the buy the most expensive kits to get a great running car and Mario will not up-sell you things you don't need for your application.

This install was on a 914 2.0L that had factory D-jetronic. Normally we would keep it plenum based re-using much of the factory parts, but with the TB badly worn and this clients desire to clean-up the engine bay, so we went with 40mm ITBs with modern 32# injectors. Ignition is a crank triggered (36-1 wheel mounted behind the fan w/ a bracket and hall sensor) using a coil pack and 8mm plug wires. Exhaust sampling is with an Innovate LC2 All sensors are wired through custom made harnesses. These feed into a relay board. This relay board is not a piece that is 100% necessary to use, but I feel it simplifies and cleans-up the install by getting all fuses and relays used into one neat, clean compact footprint.

The install took about 2 days. This included careful removal of the old D-jet system and installation of all the components is the new system. We chose to mount this system in the fwd, right end of the rear trunk. Probably the most difficult part of the install was installing the hall sensor bracket with the engine in place. While totally doable, it was a tedious part of the job.

Mario came out to assist in the in-car tuning. The result of a 2-2.5 hour drive is smooth as silk driving from idle to red line, under light throttle or heavy. Acceleration is smooth. No bucking, burping or farting Here is a short video of the test-drive and an over view of the install.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9rcczRTG_M...e=youtube_gdata

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post Sep 16 2015, 08:59 PM
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Huh. I haven't met anyone like that, are these people active any place other than the SDS forums? I sure don't know everyone, of course, but I know a lot of people who've switched to MS from other systems, no one who's pulled a MS system for SDS.

I think Nate actually answered your question. SDS is just that, simple. If it works for you, and you have no need for any other capabilities and never will then fine, not a problem, use it. In counterpoint MS will be there with all the capabilities you need, no matter how you or your motor evolve. More capabilities inevitably means more variables, so more complexity. You can't get away from that, but it's more complicated because it does more. Other side of that coin, be sure SDS will do everything you need, now and in the future, before you commit to it.




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Huh. I haven't met anyone like that, are these people active any place other than the SDS forums? I sure don't know everyone, of course, but I know a lot of people who've switched to MS from other systems, no one who's pulled a MS system for SDS.

I think Nate actually answered your question. SDS is just that, simple. If it works for you, and you have no need for any other capabilities and never will then fine, not a problem, use it. In counterpoint MS will be there with all the capabilities you need, no matter how you or your motor evolve. More capabilities inevitably means more variables, so more complexity. You can't get away from that, but it's more complicated because it does more. Other side of that coin, be sure SDS will do everything you need, now and in the future, before you commit to it.



I scan a lot of threads and wasn't even aware of a SDS forum. I have read Raby say he is a proponent of SDS. I'm very interested in building a large displacement engine and unsure of an induction system. These types of threads are very helpful. Nate, when I get to that stage maybe we can collaborate together on a MS system?
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aircooledtechguy   My latest Megasquirt install   Sep 15 2015, 11:46 PM
sixnotfour   Nice job Nate,, That was my Dads 76 .... dad 2.0,...   Sep 16 2015, 03:01 AM
falcor75   Dammit! you're making me regret not going ...   Sep 16 2015, 03:09 AM
aircooledtechguy   Nice job Nate,, That was my Dads 76 .... dad 2.0...   Sep 16 2015, 08:00 AM
AndyB   We also added a Tangerine Racing Evo IV. :tt...   Sep 17 2015, 12:11 PM
aircooledtechguy   We also added a Tangerine Racing Evo IV. :t...   Sep 17 2015, 04:21 PM
BeemerSteve   Megasquirt EFI is an amazingly capable system tha...   Sep 16 2015, 08:09 AM
GregAmy   Nice. Normally we would keep it plenum based re-u...   Sep 16 2015, 08:43 AM
aircooledtechguy   Hey Nate! I was there yesterday for the final...   Sep 16 2015, 10:19 AM
mepstein   Can you make a setup to work on a Porsche 6. We ar...   Sep 16 2015, 10:27 AM
aircooledtechguy   Can you make a setup to work on a Porsche 6. We a...   Sep 16 2015, 12:33 PM
mepstein   Can you make a setup to work on a Porsche 6. We ...   Sep 16 2015, 01:49 PM
rhodyguy   i'm going to have to think about this…a set ...   Sep 16 2015, 10:50 AM
Dtjaden   Mario could easily put this type of kit together. ...   Sep 16 2015, 12:23 PM
pete000   :worship: :drooley: That is one fine running 91...   Sep 16 2015, 02:18 PM
ndfrigi   Nice! now looking forward to finish my 71 1.7 ...   Sep 16 2015, 02:47 PM
john77   Man, that sounds nice. I have a friend building me...   Sep 16 2015, 03:53 PM
jd74914   Without bringing logic too much into it, is the d...   Sep 16 2015, 04:18 PM
nine9three   What do you think you are gaining over a properly ...   Sep 16 2015, 05:18 PM
Dtjaden   I am also curious about the resale value. To that ...   Sep 16 2015, 05:43 PM
jim_hoyland   Great thread ! What are you referring in post ...   Sep 16 2015, 07:43 PM
Mueller   Great thread ! What are you referring in post...   Sep 16 2015, 08:20 PM
Dtjaden   One way injector flow is rated is pounds per hour ...   Sep 16 2015, 08:15 PM
aircooledtechguy   I agree that installing EFI will not necessarily g...   Sep 16 2015, 08:24 PM
nine9three   I agree that installing EFI will not necessarily ...   Sep 16 2015, 08:36 PM
aircooledtechguy   Very well said and thank you for giving such a de...   Sep 16 2015, 09:02 PM
DBCooper   Huh. I haven't met anyone like that, are thes...   Sep 16 2015, 08:59 PM
nine9three   Huh. I haven't met anyone like that, are the...   Sep 16 2015, 09:54 PM
pete000   This system brings the 914 into the modern world. ...   Sep 16 2015, 09:14 PM
boxsterfan   Regarding value of our 914's: If your car is a...   Sep 16 2015, 09:35 PM
DBCooper   The forums I mentioned are on the SDS website, so ...   Sep 16 2015, 11:09 PM
kwlane   I have a set CB fuel injection throttle bodies tha...   Sep 16 2015, 11:32 PM
aircooledtechguy   This system brings the 914 into the modern world....   Sep 17 2015, 10:45 AM
era vulgaris   What's the ballpark "all in" cost of...   Sep 17 2015, 05:55 PM
MarioVelotta   What's the ballpark "all in" cost o...   Sep 18 2015, 12:37 PM
era vulgaris   What's the ballpark "all in" cost ...   Sep 18 2015, 02:13 PM
aircooledtechguy   The crank trigger was a bit of a challenge to inst...   Sep 18 2015, 02:58 PM
MarioVelotta   You definitely got the sound!   Sep 20 2015, 12:57 PM
Michelj13   Awesome. I have about 600 miles on my MS system an...   Sep 21 2015, 04:40 PM
aircooledtechguy   Awesome. I have about 600 miles on my MS system a...   Sep 23 2015, 06:45 AM


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