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> BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE: BACK IN BLACK! from black plague to "Black Beauty", UPDATED PICUTURES 08-01-2016** switching the tub, sold blackie, so now to the Copper Tub should be remaned i guess, any ideas? Cu later?
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post Oct 3 2015, 04:43 PM
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Introduction to the car my 11 year old named black beauty . Hopefully it can be returned to her former glory.

Back story:
Not much is kknown about this car.
I bought the car from Billh1963 on Sept. 29, 2015. He bought the car earlier in the year , found on Craigs list in Columbia, SC. We all know Bill can't pass up a deal!. Car sat for 10 years after the p.o. had pulled it off the road to fix and restore it. He got as far as stripping it down, pulled out much of the wiring harness. Replaced the right front quarter panel and then it was abandoned. Luckily it was preserved by being stored in a clean dry place.
Goals: return to road as a nice close to original daily driver.
1. Remove rust in hell hole and passenger cross member, and sail panel area on left side.
2. Prepare for back dating bumpers
3. Clean and prep for repainting.
3.5. Assess motor status and prepare for refresh.
Either a. Refresh 1.8 , b.rebuild using current motor with turbo, or c. Replace with 2.0 from donor car.
4. Paint
5. Reassemble and complete restore of interior.
Interior was originally white, now dyed black and in bad shape. Not salvageable.

Here are a few pictures of the current condition of the car.

I am a late entry and thank the powers that be for allowing me to join the contest.
I do not have the welding or body work talent that some have but I will do most if not all mechanical and interior restore work.


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post Oct 27 2015, 06:45 AM
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as posted on the update thread :::

OCTOBER UPDATE: for BACK IN BLACK(i'm renaming my thread this with the addition of the AC/DC song of same name as my official music) yep, that's all I've done-----
no, actually what I have accomplished is hooked up wiring, put in new fuel lines, fuel filter, pump, tank etc.

I bought the car as a rolling stripped down project, so normally I would not have done that but with this contest its not a bad way to go. it saved me a lot of time and trouble, but as discussed on Jeff B's recent tread asking the question which is worth more or which would you prefer, its a hard thing to sort thru all that stuff done by someone else, so I have spent hours sorting thru bags of labeled stuff, and some not labeled, digging into the car to look for rust(of which I have found some, nothing show stopping) and assembling a list of stuff I need to order from restoration design.
-began chipping out the tar board in the floor pans, found some rust along the edges of the floor, but mostly just surface stuff so far. right hell hole had a bad attempt at previous repair, including bad welding and calk!,
-wiring: wow what a mess - this takes the most time. Ordered some schematics, a member here sent me a PDF which I blew up, sent to local print shop, had them printed and laminated so I don't need my glasses to read them!!
- pulled wiring back thru to sort, hook up the fuel pump. because I need to know what I have in order to know if I am doing major or minor engine work- i'm really close to trying to crank it up so that I can then check for leaks, check compression etc. ( car is a 75 with 1.8 L-jet.)
- what I have sourced and ordered so far:
1. new Mahle wheels from member here: - will be shipped today or tomorrow(soon as I pay him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )
2. New Distributor with installed optical points from Hot Spark - I read here that several others were using this distributor and very happy with the performance.
3. ordered vac hose, bought pump, filter and gas line and hooked all that up
4. new battery
5. I bought 914rubber.com bumper tops for back dating the bumpers- this might not happen, as I was contemplating a full stock build and restore: which poses the question, should I or should I not? because I cant find a set of decent nice chrome bumpers!!! , SO for anyone out there that might have a set let me know, otherwise it will have to just sell these toppers, and put the stock stuff back on (which maybe I should do)
this car is a mostly clean it up, make repairs and reassemble mostly in a stock fashion. Not custom.
Goals for this month that I believe I will have met:
- rewire , sort thru that- test run motor, strip floor pan and assess all areas for rust
- order parts, source proper wheels for car, sort thru parts stash,
- sourced a local Porsche shop that will help with next months goals:
-start car, run it and asses motor for needed repairs before dropping it out and cleaning it up
-threw out almost all interior parts except seats!! it was all trash
** so new list of parts needed to go forward: hell hole repair, battery tray, new dash and all new interior including door panels, back pad panels, white vinyl for back , doors, seats, - need to find out what carpet the car would have had stock- it was originally a stock black outside and white interior???

Next months goals: minor welding repairs of rear firewall, hell hole, replace battery tray to original location, fix 2 other body rust spots, prime etc
- pull motor and clean, put all nice new stuff on it,
- maybe finish minor body work have either touched up, or full respray- this is not decided yet.
- * will need all new exhaust so that decision will come later, but, I have very nice 1.8 heat exchangers with triad exhaust on my 75 2.0 copper car, so I might do a swap and buy the dual outlet SS. set up from Tangerine racing and put it on the Copper car. Decisions, Decisions!!!
Pictures will be posted on my thread, but yea, we've made some progress!
major parts orders are coming from 914 rubber, PMB, Restoration Design and Auto Atlanta.
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Philip W.   BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE: BACK IN BLACK! from black plague to "Black Beauty"   Oct 3 2015, 04:43 PM
914forme   Welcome to the Challenge Dr. Phil, nice looking ca...   Oct 3 2015, 04:48 PM
Philip W.   Welcome to the Challenge Dr. Phil, nice looking c...   Oct 3 2015, 05:03 PM
Philip W.   Couple more   Oct 3 2015, 04:51 PM
Philip W.   Front trunk. Hood is off,   Oct 3 2015, 04:55 PM
Philip W.   Rust   Oct 3 2015, 05:06 PM
Philip W.   here is what i am shooting for with being original...   Oct 3 2015, 06:48 PM
Philip W.   A few more present status picks, engine etc   Oct 8 2015, 09:03 AM
Philip W.   Rust   Oct 8 2015, 09:06 AM
Philip W.   He'll hole   Oct 8 2015, 09:08 AM
Philip W.   Driver door area   Oct 8 2015, 09:12 AM
Philip W.   Dash wiring question- I have my gauges just about ...   Oct 12 2015, 12:31 PM
Philip W.   Here is the other car , correct color, for referen...   Oct 12 2015, 12:33 PM
Philip W.   Minor progress tonight. Changed oil and filter. N...   Oct 19 2015, 07:27 PM
Philip W.   as posted on the update thread ::: OCTOBER UPDATE...   Oct 27 2015, 06:45 AM
Philip W.   :Qarl: just noticed I am high lighted finally...   Oct 27 2015, 06:57 AM
Philip W.   New distributor. Can I use this over ? I think wh...   Oct 27 2015, 07:04 AM
Andyrew   New distributor. Can I use this over ? I think w...   Nov 6 2015, 09:18 AM
Philip W.   New distributor. Can I use this over ? I think ...   Nov 6 2015, 09:55 AM
Philip W.   Fender/door gap and cowl gap   Oct 27 2015, 07:06 AM
Philip W.   :smash: :welder: :sawzall: is about to commenc...   Nov 6 2015, 08:50 AM
Philip W.   :bump: just a brief update - may not have much to...   Nov 23 2015, 10:03 AM
Philip W.   although I posted some update info a few weeks ago...   Dec 8 2015, 07:20 AM
Andyrew   Congrats on the new house! Its amazing how muc...   Dec 8 2015, 09:50 AM
Philip W.   Congrats on the new house! Its amazing how mu...   Dec 29 2015, 08:07 AM
Philip W.   UPDATE: January 2016 - As i had stated at the en...   Jan 28 2016, 07:35 AM
Mueller   UPDATE: January 2016 - As i had stated at the e...   Jan 31 2016, 05:08 PM
rick 918-S   I encourage you to stay in the game. The jacket is...   Jan 31 2016, 10:29 PM
stevegm   I encourage you to stay in the game. The jacket i...   Jan 31 2016, 10:36 PM
Philip W.   I encourage you to stay in the game. The jacket i...   Feb 1 2016, 05:34 AM
rick 918-S   I encourage you to stay in the game. The jacket ...   Feb 1 2016, 08:04 AM
Philip W.   [quote name='Philip W.' post='2296908' date='Feb ...   Feb 1 2016, 08:18 AM
Philip W.   i cant believe that I last posted a month ago, wow...   Mar 2 2016, 08:06 AM
Olympic 1.7   If you have the room, I wouldn't wait until Ma...   Mar 2 2016, 09:02 AM
Philip W.   If you have the room, I wouldn't wait until M...   May 24 2016, 09:37 AM
Philip W.   ** update way over due!!! we moved, go...   May 24 2016, 09:10 AM
Philip W.   ** update way over due!!! we moved, go...   May 24 2016, 09:18 AM
JoeD   Wow! Hope all goes well, and wishing you a sav...   May 24 2016, 09:23 AM
Philip W.   Joe, is this your first year? I missed the first ...   May 24 2016, 09:33 AM
Philip W.   I didn't do anything much myself on my car thi...   Jun 2 2016, 05:53 AM
Philip W.   Well, I am happy to report that CFR is hot on the ...   Jul 25 2016, 07:05 AM
Vysoc   Hang in there Dr., I would have never thought the ...   Jul 25 2016, 07:23 PM
Philip W.   Good news to report! Here are some photos that...   Aug 1 2016, 01:01 PM
Vysoc   Dr. Phil, Looks like you are in good hands..........   Aug 2 2016, 06:44 PM
Philip W.   update as of today: Chris is almost finished wit...   Aug 10 2016, 01:00 PM
Racer Chris   Right quarter panel tire clearance:   Aug 10 2016, 02:52 PM
Vysoc   Nice work Chris!!!! :smash: :we...   Aug 10 2016, 03:03 PM
Philip W.   time for some rust updates - I have some pictures ...   Aug 22 2016, 07:43 AM
Philip W.   more   Aug 22 2016, 07:44 AM
Philip W.   right side rear long and wheel house   Aug 22 2016, 07:45 AM
Philip W.   righ side under   Aug 22 2016, 07:46 AM
Philip W.   <_<   Aug 22 2016, 07:47 AM
Philip W.   :blink:   Aug 22 2016, 07:48 AM
Philip W.   Big change from before   Aug 27 2016, 06:47 PM
Philip W.   Drivers side Jack triangle had rusted off complete...   Aug 27 2016, 06:51 PM
Philip W.   New floor pan pieces!   Aug 27 2016, 06:57 PM
tygaboy   Right on! :sawzall: :welder: So nice to see...   Aug 27 2016, 07:12 PM
Philip W.   Inside picture of new door area- also new cross me...   Aug 28 2016, 05:20 PM
Philip W.   Cross member   Aug 28 2016, 05:22 PM
Philip W.   :)   Aug 28 2016, 05:39 PM
Philip W.   Front carpet center console back in   Aug 28 2016, 05:41 PM
Philip W.   Front carpet center console back in And the the co...   Aug 28 2016, 05:44 PM
Philip W.   I'm not really satisfied with the level of sup...   Aug 28 2016, 05:57 PM
Philip W.   Oh and I replaced the fuel pump today- it was maki...   Aug 28 2016, 06:05 PM
Philip W.   New pump   Aug 28 2016, 06:06 PM
Philip W.   Center console cushion was with car when I got it ...   Aug 28 2016, 06:24 PM
Philip W.   Sweats back in with xcoco mats and fire extinguish...   Aug 28 2016, 06:26 PM
Philip W.   Proof of the oil cooler fan that went in yesterday   Aug 28 2016, 06:27 PM
Philip W.   Wires for the heated seats were too short to reach...   Aug 28 2016, 06:35 PM
Philip W.   One last item- I made a template that will get sen...   Aug 28 2016, 06:52 PM
Philip W.   I never liked how the d board and mat fit in front...   Aug 28 2016, 06:55 PM


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