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> Relay board, Doesn't look right
Coondog
post Jun 6 2016, 11:17 AM
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Still trying to figure out barely running 75 1.8 L jet blues

Looked at relay board and found missing rear window defogger fuse which is no big deal but also saw missing power supply relay fuse ???? Unknown what this is for. Then unknown yellow wire.



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post Jun 6 2016, 09:17 PM
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It's good to question, let me show you the path of electrons for fuel pump operations on the Ljet, (this only applies to Ljet).

Lets start at the dual relay in this picture below:
Unfused power straight from the battery enters the relay at pin 88z. After the points close (won't bore you with the details on how this happens), continuity is made and 12vdc exits the dual relay via pin 88d (red highlighted box). Ultimately, pin 88d which is a big black wire with a red stripe goes to the 12pin connector of the relay board on pin 12.
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Next: A circuit track inside the relay board connects pin 12 of the 12 pin connector to
pin 13 of the relay board's 14 pin connector. I circled the action in red. Note that there is a junction point at J17 on pin 87. This too is a fuel pump relay, but used for Djets. Even with this relay pulled, pin 13 of the 14 pin connector will still receive power.
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Here's a close up of the relay board and what's happening:
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I have the current path highlighted in bold red on how it enters and exits the relay board via the 12 pin connector and out the 14 pin connector. The junction (which I highlighted in yellow) can also inject 12vdc to this current path but it doesn't since Ljet doesn't control the operation of this relay.

With that relay pulled from the relay board, the car should remain running. (because the current path highlighted in red has not been interrupted)

Different year Ljet 914's may have some slight variations on how the fuel pump receives power. Some fuel pumps were mounted near the engine while others were mounted near the fuel tank. The 914's with the engine mounted fuel pump, I believe a short wire from the dual relay traveled straight to the fuel pump.
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Coondog   Relay board   Jun 6 2016, 11:17 AM
timothy_nd28   Yellow wire goes to the starter   Jun 6 2016, 11:21 AM
Coondog   Thanks, tach bounces when I get can get it to rev ...   Jun 6 2016, 11:37 AM
timothy_nd28   most of them do, the dielectric in the 40 year old...   Jun 6 2016, 11:53 AM
Coondog   What is the power relay fuse used for ??   Jun 6 2016, 01:09 PM
timothy_nd28   not used in your application. Ljet systems have t...   Jun 6 2016, 03:12 PM
Coondog   Thanks again   Jun 6 2016, 04:59 PM
Jason74914   Timothy, I know you are the FI guru, but my 18.L L...   Jun 6 2016, 07:41 PM
ClayPerrine   Timothy, I know you are the FI guru, but my 18.L ...   Jun 6 2016, 08:05 PM
timothy_nd28   It's good to question, let me show you the pat...   Jun 6 2016, 09:17 PM
Jason74914   Huh, very interesting! Sure makes diagnosis m...   Jun 6 2016, 09:28 PM
timothy_nd28   Electrically, the two rear ports are the same. Lo...   Jun 6 2016, 09:33 PM
Jason74914   I may have answered my own question. Looks like o...   Jun 6 2016, 09:34 PM
Jason74914   I may have answered my own question. Looks like ...   Jun 6 2016, 09:35 PM
timothy_nd28   Coondog: I would concentrate on the ignition side...   Jun 6 2016, 10:14 PM
malcolm2   Consider installing a [b]electronic ignition modu...   Aug 10 2016, 08:42 AM
Jason74914   Timothy, Car sat for a few years. After draining ...   Jun 7 2016, 05:35 PM
Dave_Darling   Try unplugging the black/purple wire that goes fro...   Aug 10 2016, 02:50 PM
oakdalecurtis   Not sure if you fixed your electrical issues yet, ...   Aug 10 2016, 04:45 PM


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