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> CHT sensor extension, Curious, does it work? Who uses one?
malcolm2
post Oct 25 2016, 09:11 AM
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I want to cover all my bases here. I have purchased the new GB CHT sensor from 914Rubber to try.

So, I think I will buy a spacer from Brad Mayeur to have the option. From what he says it should:

"Porsche 914/4 Cylinder Head Temperature Sensor Extension.

This little device slows down the heating of the sensor and improves warm up drivability.
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I do have "warm up drivability" problems = Low idle RPM until the VDO CHT hits about 250*F. So it seems like my problems don't need the warm up to slow down, it needs to SPEED UP. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)

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post Oct 25 2016, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Oct 25 2016, 11:11 AM) *

I do have "warm up drivability" problems = Low idle RPM until the VDO CHT hits about 250*F. So it seems like my problems don't need the warm up to slow down, it needs to SPEED UP. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)

Not sure what you're saying here. What the spacer does is increase the amount of time for the CHT to go from cold/cool (when the ECU richens the mixture to compensate for cold engine) to warm/hot when the engine can run effectively on a leaner mixture. If you're having low idle while cool I'd suspect something else, like an AAR that's not operating properly.

I use one of Brad's spacers. My cold engine driving is good. The possible downside, which is probably attributable to or at least aggravated by the spacer, is the warm-start over rich condition. If I stop for an errand and then restart the car, the engine idles low to the point of almost dying for about 30 seconds. It's caused by the CHT cooling down faster than the engine and running too-rich. Funny, though, my A/F ratios don't look especially rich during the period that occurs. I'm looking at other potential root causes or ways to mitigate. I may remove the spacer for a few weeks to see how things run without it.
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post Oct 25 2016, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Oct 25 2016, 08:28 AM) *

The possible downside, which is probably attributable to or at least aggravated by the spacer, is the warm-start over rich condition. If I stop for an errand and then restart the car, the engine idles low to the point of almost dying for about 30 seconds. It's caused by the CHT cooling down faster than the engine and running too-rich. Funny, though, my A/F ratios don't look especially rich during the period that occurs. I'm looking at other potential root causes or ways to mitigate. I may remove the spacer for a few weeks to see how things run without it.


I didn't see your comment until I made mine, looks like we both came to the same conclusion. Try the method of hot starting that I suggested and see if it helps. If you come up with another explanation for this behavior and a fix make sure to post it.
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malcolm2   CHT sensor extension   Oct 25 2016, 09:11 AM
bretth   If I understand it correctly it is meant to keep t...   Oct 25 2016, 09:22 AM
Mikey914   Exactly. I have one also and may reproduce these.   Oct 25 2016, 09:26 AM
BeatNavy   I do have "warm up drivability" problem...   Oct 25 2016, 09:28 AM
pbanders   The possible downside, which is probably attribut...   Oct 25 2016, 04:22 PM
BeatNavy   The possible downside, which is probably attribu...   Oct 25 2016, 05:39 PM
pbanders   [quote name='pbanders' post='2415735' date='Oct 2...   Oct 25 2016, 06:15 PM
malcolm2   I have checked what I understand to be the other c...   Oct 25 2016, 09:36 AM
BeatNavy   It doesn't slow down the engine warming. It s...   Oct 25 2016, 09:45 AM
pbanders   OK, I have one of these and have been using it for...   Oct 25 2016, 04:19 PM
malcolm2   From this and other research it seems that I may j...   Oct 25 2016, 06:52 PM
TX914   I wish some clever guru would create a way to modi...   Oct 26 2016, 06:13 AM
BeatNavy   I wish some clever guru would create a way to mod...   Oct 26 2016, 06:47 AM
Philip W.   i have dealt with same issue with my 2.0 d-jet tha...   Oct 26 2016, 07:15 AM
pbanders   i have dealt with same issue with my 2.0 d-jet th...   Oct 26 2016, 01:42 PM
Mikey914   Well a rheostat would give you the ability to have...   Oct 26 2016, 10:20 AM
pbanders   See my edited response above. BTW, it's nearl...   Oct 28 2016, 04:32 PM
BeatNavy   What worked best was to start with key off, then ...   Oct 28 2016, 04:46 PM
pbanders   What worked best was to start with key off, then...   Oct 28 2016, 05:59 PM
porsche913b_sp   I will have to keep you all's suggestions in m...   Oct 28 2016, 04:46 PM
pbanders   Here's the schematic for using a DPDT switch a...   Oct 28 2016, 06:02 PM
pbanders   I never was worth a crap as an EE, I was more of a...   Oct 28 2016, 06:06 PM
pbanders   OK, here's a circuit version with two pots, on...   Oct 28 2016, 06:35 PM
pbanders   OK, I can't stop, here's one more circuit ...   Oct 28 2016, 06:48 PM
Spoke   OK, I can't stop I know the feeling. Here...   Oct 28 2016, 08:37 PM
pbanders   [quote name='pbanders' post='2417044' date='Oct 2...   Oct 28 2016, 09:47 PM
pbanders   One thing I always know for sure: If I draw a circ...   Oct 28 2016, 09:52 PM
TX914   Very nice. This seems closer to being realized. I ...   Oct 29 2016, 08:19 AM
pbanders   Very nice. This seems closer to being realized. I...   Oct 29 2016, 05:35 PM
timothy_nd28   Instead of a switch, why not a small circuit that ...   Oct 29 2016, 09:02 AM
pbanders   Instead of a switch, why not a small circuit that...   Oct 29 2016, 05:36 PM
timothy_nd28   RE: CHT sensor extension   Oct 29 2016, 07:17 PM
TX914   I'll take 2 of those. :)   Oct 29 2016, 09:21 PM
pbanders   Tim, thanks, I've got all those components exc...   Oct 30 2016, 07:28 AM
timothy_nd28   Sorry, I know it wasn't helpful but I happen t...   Nov 1 2016, 11:28 PM
nine9three   I have the extension and it transformed my car whe...   Nov 2 2016, 11:07 AM
Mikey914   I have the extension and it transformed my car wh...   Nov 3 2016, 11:31 AM
porsche913b_sp   I have the extension and it transformed my car wh...   Nov 3 2016, 11:44 AM
Mikey914   What I'm getting at is you installed a new CHT...   Nov 3 2016, 11:55 AM
pbanders   I have the tester box all put together, not wired ...   Nov 3 2016, 11:24 PM
pbanders   OK, I got it all together and installed, and went ...   Nov 4 2016, 06:59 PM


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