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> CHT sensor extension, Curious, does it work? Who uses one?
malcolm2
post Oct 25 2016, 09:11 AM
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I want to cover all my bases here. I have purchased the new GB CHT sensor from 914Rubber to try.

So, I think I will buy a spacer from Brad Mayeur to have the option. From what he says it should:

"Porsche 914/4 Cylinder Head Temperature Sensor Extension.

This little device slows down the heating of the sensor and improves warm up drivability.
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I do have "warm up drivability" problems = Low idle RPM until the VDO CHT hits about 250*F. So it seems like my problems don't need the warm up to slow down, it needs to SPEED UP. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)

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post Oct 26 2016, 07:15 AM
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i have dealt with same issue with my 2.0 d-jet that BeatNavy has described - the issue of the hot start idle too low when restarting the car after being warmed up but off lfor a short run into the store or something of that sort. -
I did get a pot(potentiometer) that was a 0-1kohm that I put in line with the CHT circuit and was able to adjust that to a point where it added enough resistance that this was almost eliminated. but since I replaced the CHT with a new one I had laying around this seemed a lot less and I removed it - I might put it back, because the problem while there isn't as bad with this CHT - you can fool around with other things to lean out the A/F on start up and idle but I don't think that is the way to go .
anyway its not hard to put together a variable resistor in line with the CHT- wondering what you think of this Mr. Anders.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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post Oct 26 2016, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(Philip W. @ Oct 26 2016, 06:15 AM) *

i have dealt with same issue with my 2.0 d-jet that BeatNavy has described - the issue of the hot start idle too low when restarting the car after being warmed up but off lfor a short run into the store or something of that sort. -
I did get a pot(potentiometer) that was a 0-1kohm that I put in line with the CHT circuit and was able to adjust that to a point where it added enough resistance that this was almost eliminated. but since I replaced the CHT with a new one I had laying around this seemed a lot less and I removed it - I might put it back, because the problem while there isn't as bad with this CHT - you can fool around with other things to lean out the A/F on start up and idle but I don't think that is the way to go .
anyway its not hard to put together a variable resistor in line with the CHT- wondering what you think of this Mr. Anders.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)


EDITED response: This is what I get when I post too late at night and after my third glass of wine. The effect of CHT resistance on mixture is the higher the resistance, the richer the mixture. If you ADD resistance inline to the CHT, you're just going to make the mixture even richer and make it worse! What you want to do is add resistance in parallel to the CHT, which will have the effect of LOWERING the resistance the ECU sees, and making the mixture leaner.

I'll put up a circuit for how to make a switchbox to do this using a potentiometer and a DPDT switch.
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malcolm2   CHT sensor extension   Oct 25 2016, 09:11 AM
bretth   If I understand it correctly it is meant to keep t...   Oct 25 2016, 09:22 AM
Mikey914   Exactly. I have one also and may reproduce these.   Oct 25 2016, 09:26 AM
BeatNavy   I do have "warm up drivability" problem...   Oct 25 2016, 09:28 AM
pbanders   The possible downside, which is probably attribut...   Oct 25 2016, 04:22 PM
BeatNavy   The possible downside, which is probably attribu...   Oct 25 2016, 05:39 PM
pbanders   [quote name='pbanders' post='2415735' date='Oct 2...   Oct 25 2016, 06:15 PM
malcolm2   I have checked what I understand to be the other c...   Oct 25 2016, 09:36 AM
BeatNavy   It doesn't slow down the engine warming. It s...   Oct 25 2016, 09:45 AM
pbanders   OK, I have one of these and have been using it for...   Oct 25 2016, 04:19 PM
malcolm2   From this and other research it seems that I may j...   Oct 25 2016, 06:52 PM
TX914   I wish some clever guru would create a way to modi...   Oct 26 2016, 06:13 AM
BeatNavy   I wish some clever guru would create a way to mod...   Oct 26 2016, 06:47 AM
Philip W.   i have dealt with same issue with my 2.0 d-jet tha...   Oct 26 2016, 07:15 AM
pbanders   i have dealt with same issue with my 2.0 d-jet th...   Oct 26 2016, 01:42 PM
Mikey914   Well a rheostat would give you the ability to have...   Oct 26 2016, 10:20 AM
pbanders   See my edited response above. BTW, it's nearl...   Oct 28 2016, 04:32 PM
BeatNavy   What worked best was to start with key off, then ...   Oct 28 2016, 04:46 PM
pbanders   What worked best was to start with key off, then...   Oct 28 2016, 05:59 PM
porsche913b_sp   I will have to keep you all's suggestions in m...   Oct 28 2016, 04:46 PM
pbanders   Here's the schematic for using a DPDT switch a...   Oct 28 2016, 06:02 PM
pbanders   I never was worth a crap as an EE, I was more of a...   Oct 28 2016, 06:06 PM
pbanders   OK, here's a circuit version with two pots, on...   Oct 28 2016, 06:35 PM
pbanders   OK, I can't stop, here's one more circuit ...   Oct 28 2016, 06:48 PM
Spoke   OK, I can't stop I know the feeling. Here...   Oct 28 2016, 08:37 PM
pbanders   [quote name='pbanders' post='2417044' date='Oct 2...   Oct 28 2016, 09:47 PM
pbanders   One thing I always know for sure: If I draw a circ...   Oct 28 2016, 09:52 PM
TX914   Very nice. This seems closer to being realized. I ...   Oct 29 2016, 08:19 AM
pbanders   Very nice. This seems closer to being realized. I...   Oct 29 2016, 05:35 PM
timothy_nd28   Instead of a switch, why not a small circuit that ...   Oct 29 2016, 09:02 AM
pbanders   Instead of a switch, why not a small circuit that...   Oct 29 2016, 05:36 PM
timothy_nd28   RE: CHT sensor extension   Oct 29 2016, 07:17 PM
TX914   I'll take 2 of those. :)   Oct 29 2016, 09:21 PM
pbanders   Tim, thanks, I've got all those components exc...   Oct 30 2016, 07:28 AM
timothy_nd28   Sorry, I know it wasn't helpful but I happen t...   Nov 1 2016, 11:28 PM
nine9three   I have the extension and it transformed my car whe...   Nov 2 2016, 11:07 AM
Mikey914   I have the extension and it transformed my car wh...   Nov 3 2016, 11:31 AM
porsche913b_sp   I have the extension and it transformed my car wh...   Nov 3 2016, 11:44 AM
Mikey914   What I'm getting at is you installed a new CHT...   Nov 3 2016, 11:55 AM
pbanders   I have the tester box all put together, not wired ...   Nov 3 2016, 11:24 PM
pbanders   OK, I got it all together and installed, and went ...   Nov 4 2016, 06:59 PM


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