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> CHT sensor extension, Curious, does it work? Who uses one?
malcolm2
post Oct 25 2016, 09:11 AM
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I want to cover all my bases here. I have purchased the new GB CHT sensor from 914Rubber to try.

So, I think I will buy a spacer from Brad Mayeur to have the option. From what he says it should:

"Porsche 914/4 Cylinder Head Temperature Sensor Extension.

This little device slows down the heating of the sensor and improves warm up drivability.
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I do have "warm up drivability" problems = Low idle RPM until the VDO CHT hits about 250*F. So it seems like my problems don't need the warm up to slow down, it needs to SPEED UP. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)

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Also found on RATWELL (scroll down to WORKAROUNDS)http://www.ratwell.com/technical/TempSensorII.html#parts
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post Oct 28 2016, 06:48 PM
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OK, I can't stop, here's one more circuit where I've added a test node and an isolation switch, so that you can test either the voltage across the CHT and series/parallel circuit, or by opening the switch, test the resistance to ground. Obviously, when the Isolate switch is opened, the car won't run because the ECU will see an open for the CHT, but you can test the resistance so that you know what the setpoint is. While the car is running, you can watch the voltage and see how it's changing as the temperature changes the resistance of the CHT or you change the adjustments on the pots and DPDT switch. Note I have the CHT at 50 ohms, that's just the approximate resistance of the CHT when the car is fully warmed-up.

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SPST Switch

http://www.parts-express.com/spst-mini-pad...switch--060-532

Banana Binding Post (red, buy 2: ECU, Test Point)

http://www.parts-express.com/binding-post-red--090-485

Banana Binding Post (black, buy 2: CHT, ground)

http://www.parts-express.com/parts-express...-black--090-480

Banana Plug (red, buy 2: ECU, Test Point)

http://www.parts-express.com/parts-express...ug-red--090-465

Banana Plug (black, buy 2: CHT, ground)

http://www.parts-express.com/parts-express...-black--090-460

Project box

http://www.parts-express.com/hammond-1591a...97-083--320-702

Pot Knobs

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NN6M...=UTF8&psc=1
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post Oct 28 2016, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(pbanders @ Oct 28 2016, 08:48 PM) *

OK, I can't stop


I know the feeling. Here's a little spin on your updated circuit to have a rich, lean, and normal setting. Using all the same components as you did except using a center off DPDT switch.

When SW1 is in the up position, the CHT is set for lean operation. In the center (OFF) position, the CHT is set for rich operation. In the down position, the CHT is normal.

DPDT Switch ON-OFF-ON


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post Oct 28 2016, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(Spoke @ Oct 28 2016, 07:37 PM) *

QUOTE(pbanders @ Oct 28 2016, 08:48 PM) *

OK, I can't stop


I know the feeling. Here's a little spin on your updated circuit to have a rich, lean, and normal setting. Using all the same components as you did except using a center off DPDT switch.

When SW1 is in the up position, the CHT is set for lean operation. In the center (OFF) position, the CHT is set for rich operation. In the down position, the CHT is normal.

DPDT Switch ON-OFF-ON


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Good idea, I didn't know such a switch existed! You can do the same with mine by adjusting the rich pot to be a shunt, but this is better.
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malcolm2   CHT sensor extension   Oct 25 2016, 09:11 AM
bretth   If I understand it correctly it is meant to keep t...   Oct 25 2016, 09:22 AM
Mikey914   Exactly. I have one also and may reproduce these.   Oct 25 2016, 09:26 AM
BeatNavy   I do have "warm up drivability" problem...   Oct 25 2016, 09:28 AM
pbanders   The possible downside, which is probably attribut...   Oct 25 2016, 04:22 PM
BeatNavy   The possible downside, which is probably attribu...   Oct 25 2016, 05:39 PM
pbanders   [quote name='pbanders' post='2415735' date='Oct 2...   Oct 25 2016, 06:15 PM
malcolm2   I have checked what I understand to be the other c...   Oct 25 2016, 09:36 AM
BeatNavy   It doesn't slow down the engine warming. It s...   Oct 25 2016, 09:45 AM
pbanders   OK, I have one of these and have been using it for...   Oct 25 2016, 04:19 PM
malcolm2   From this and other research it seems that I may j...   Oct 25 2016, 06:52 PM
TX914   I wish some clever guru would create a way to modi...   Oct 26 2016, 06:13 AM
BeatNavy   I wish some clever guru would create a way to mod...   Oct 26 2016, 06:47 AM
Philip W.   i have dealt with same issue with my 2.0 d-jet tha...   Oct 26 2016, 07:15 AM
pbanders   i have dealt with same issue with my 2.0 d-jet th...   Oct 26 2016, 01:42 PM
Mikey914   Well a rheostat would give you the ability to have...   Oct 26 2016, 10:20 AM
pbanders   See my edited response above. BTW, it's nearl...   Oct 28 2016, 04:32 PM
BeatNavy   What worked best was to start with key off, then ...   Oct 28 2016, 04:46 PM
pbanders   What worked best was to start with key off, then...   Oct 28 2016, 05:59 PM
porsche913b_sp   I will have to keep you all's suggestions in m...   Oct 28 2016, 04:46 PM
pbanders   Here's the schematic for using a DPDT switch a...   Oct 28 2016, 06:02 PM
pbanders   I never was worth a crap as an EE, I was more of a...   Oct 28 2016, 06:06 PM
pbanders   OK, here's a circuit version with two pots, on...   Oct 28 2016, 06:35 PM
pbanders   OK, I can't stop, here's one more circuit ...   Oct 28 2016, 06:48 PM
Spoke   OK, I can't stop I know the feeling. Here...   Oct 28 2016, 08:37 PM
pbanders   [quote name='pbanders' post='2417044' date='Oct 2...   Oct 28 2016, 09:47 PM
pbanders   One thing I always know for sure: If I draw a circ...   Oct 28 2016, 09:52 PM
TX914   Very nice. This seems closer to being realized. I ...   Oct 29 2016, 08:19 AM
pbanders   Very nice. This seems closer to being realized. I...   Oct 29 2016, 05:35 PM
timothy_nd28   Instead of a switch, why not a small circuit that ...   Oct 29 2016, 09:02 AM
pbanders   Instead of a switch, why not a small circuit that...   Oct 29 2016, 05:36 PM
timothy_nd28   RE: CHT sensor extension   Oct 29 2016, 07:17 PM
TX914   I'll take 2 of those. :)   Oct 29 2016, 09:21 PM
pbanders   Tim, thanks, I've got all those components exc...   Oct 30 2016, 07:28 AM
timothy_nd28   Sorry, I know it wasn't helpful but I happen t...   Nov 1 2016, 11:28 PM
nine9three   I have the extension and it transformed my car whe...   Nov 2 2016, 11:07 AM
Mikey914   I have the extension and it transformed my car wh...   Nov 3 2016, 11:31 AM
porsche913b_sp   I have the extension and it transformed my car wh...   Nov 3 2016, 11:44 AM
Mikey914   What I'm getting at is you installed a new CHT...   Nov 3 2016, 11:55 AM
pbanders   I have the tester box all put together, not wired ...   Nov 3 2016, 11:24 PM
pbanders   OK, I got it all together and installed, and went ...   Nov 4 2016, 06:59 PM


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