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N_Jay
post Oct 29 2016, 11:03 AM
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OK, we have recently hashed out head gaskets, Pistons, rods, and bearings.
A while a go it was oil pumps.

So what about a fresh build discussion.

I plan on building a decent 2.0 based street engine.
Goals are decent power, longevity and drivability.
Think fun reliable touring with an occasional autocross. (Kind of what a factory 2.0 was good for, but with a little more kick in the pants.)
AND reasonable price (Yes, that is always open to interpretation)

What is recommended displacement? Bore and Stroke?
What pistons, rods and cylinders? What compression?
What cam?
Guessing micro squirt or tuned up D-Jet.

What "tricks" are worth while for a few HP and/or drivability, longevity, etc.
What "tricks" are not worth while (or worst yet help one direction and hurt another)

How much worse would it be to start with a 1.8 base? (Heads, etc.)
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post Oct 29 2016, 05:06 PM
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Quick Recipe:
96mm jugs & KB pistons from European MS
webcam 86b camshaft & lifters
New FW, & clutch assembly
have rotating assembly balanced
Mallory Unilite (now MSD) with 6AL ignition
2.0L heads and have them flycut/trued a little to get a new mating surface & raise the CR a tad
Deck the case and have it checked for line bore.
Set the deck height for ~.035 (no head gaskets).
This will get you close to 9.0/1 CR. (Edit - Sorry it is more like 9.5:1 CR)

Then install carbs or microsquirt.
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post Oct 31 2016, 02:50 AM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Oct 29 2016, 04:06 PM) *
Quick Recipe:
96mm jugs & KB pistons from European MS
webcam 86b camshaft & lifters
New FW, & clutch assembly
have rotating assembly balanced
Mallory Unilite (now MSD) with 6AL ignition
2.0L heads and have them flycut/trued a little to get a new mating surface & raise the CR a tad
Deck the case and have it checked for line bore.
Set the deck height for ~.035 (no head gaskets).
This will get you close to 9.0/1 CR. (Edit - Sorry it is more like 9.5:1 CR)

Then install carbs or microsquirt.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) ... Pretty much what's in the 'BB' except for a Raby 9580 cam, also slightly larger SS valves, 911 swivel adjusters & chromoly push rods (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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post Oct 31 2016, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE(euro911 @ Oct 31 2016, 03:50 AM) *

QUOTE(stugray @ Oct 29 2016, 04:06 PM) *
Quick Recipe:
96mm jugs & KB pistons from European MS
webcam 86b camshaft & lifters
New FW, & clutch assembly
have rotating assembly balanced
Mallory Unilite (now MSD) with 6AL ignition
2.0L heads and have them flycut/trued a little to get a new mating surface & raise the CR a tad
Deck the case and have it checked for line bore.
Set the deck height for ~.035 (no head gaskets).
This will get you close to 9.0/1 CR. (Edit - Sorry it is more like 9.5:1 CR)

Then install carbs or microsquirt.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) ... Pretty much what's in the 'BB' except for a Raby 9580 cam, also slightly larger SS valves, 911 swivel adjusters & chromoly push rods (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)



I guess I need to decide if I am going to play with MS or stay D-Jet before picking the cam.

What is the estimated gain going from the best cam the D-Jet will take to a good smooth-running cam running an MS system?
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N_Jay   Engine Build Recommendadtion   Oct 29 2016, 11:03 AM
tomh   light flywheel is always an easy not too expensive...   Oct 29 2016, 11:50 AM
stugray   light flywheel is always an easy not too expensiv...   Oct 29 2016, 12:00 PM
tomh   light flywheel is always an easy not too expensi...   Oct 29 2016, 07:18 PM
porschetub   light flywheel is always an easy not too expensi...   Oct 31 2016, 01:40 AM
stevegm   Oil pump is not quite resolved yet. The stock pump...   Oct 29 2016, 04:49 PM
stugray   Quick Recipe: 96mm jugs & KB pistons from Euro...   Oct 29 2016, 05:06 PM
euro911   Quick Recipe: 96mm jugs & KB pistons from Euro...   Oct 31 2016, 02:50 AM
N_Jay   Quick Recipe: 96mm jugs & KB pistons from Eur...   Oct 31 2016, 07:45 AM
injunmort   you gotta have a set of HAM,INC heads otherwise it...   Oct 29 2016, 06:12 PM
HAM Inc   LN Engineering/Type4Store sells complete, high qua...   Oct 30 2016, 08:40 AM
ConeDodger   2056. Enjoyable, still driveable. Yes, the LE seri...   Oct 29 2016, 07:22 PM
cwpeden   2056. Enjoyable, still driveable. Yes, the LE ser...   Oct 29 2016, 08:13 PM
Larmo63   I'd have McMark build your engine if you are u...   Oct 29 2016, 09:52 PM
ClayPerrine   My engine recipe: Stock 2.0 crank Stock 2.0 rod...   Oct 30 2016, 07:16 AM
stugray   you gotta have a set of HAM,INC heads otherwise i...   Oct 30 2016, 11:59 AM
tomh   you gotta have a set of HAM,INC heads otherwise ...   Oct 30 2016, 12:01 PM
N_Jay   OK, I am not looking for someone to build it. Pro...   Oct 30 2016, 05:02 PM
Dave_Darling   2056 is 96mm on a stock crank? 96mm bore, 71mm s...   Oct 30 2016, 05:52 PM
Mark Henry   I noticed that et HAM heads are 4 stud (1.8 styl...   Oct 31 2016, 12:07 AM
N_Jay   Thank so far. More questions will be coming, but ...   Oct 30 2016, 07:02 PM
cgnj   Thank so far. More questions will be coming, but...   Oct 30 2016, 09:11 PM
N_Jay   Lots of stuff to start with. Do you have inducti...   Oct 31 2016, 07:39 AM
euro911   As was mentioned above, you can also check with Ge...   Oct 31 2016, 12:28 PM
davep   What are the current recommendations on bearings? ...   Jan 18 2017, 07:04 AM
euro911   Dave, call George at European (310) 644-8038 ... h...   Jan 18 2017, 01:48 PM


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