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> Brake Upgrades for a 4 lug, what's available
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post Oct 30 2016, 08:46 AM
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Looking to upgrade my present brake system but I want to keep it 4 lug AND keep the parking brake. Not to mention, staying out of the Poor House at the same time. I'm not opposed to moving up to a larger MC. Is there such an animal? TIA, Kent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Oct 31 2016, 08:09 AM
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QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Oct 30 2016, 07:59 AM) *

QUOTE(76-914 @ Oct 30 2016, 07:46 AM) *

Looking to upgrade my present brake system but I want to keep it 4 lug AND keep the parking brake. Not to mention, staying out of the Poor House at the same time. I'm not opposed to moving up to a larger MC. Is there such an animal? TIA, Kent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)



I am working on aluminum billet hubs for four lug that will allow the use of BMW 320 calipers that will be modified for vented rotor use. They will use 911 1969-1976 20mm thick rotors. This will result in an economical upgrade package. Other than that you can go with the 320I calipers by modifying them to fit existing 914 struts. Estimating the hubs to be about $400 and calipers $200 , plus stock rotors $100 so the total will be in the $700-800 range. Prices are only an estimate pending on machining time and material cost. This was based on the Brad Robert design hubs which I recently acquired sold sets of the five lug recently.
I have sold several sets of the BMW calipers with customers staying with the 17mm master and they reported a greater brake pedal modulation. Upgrade to 19mm is not needed but would maintain the same pedal feel if you did got to a 19mm.
Looking for a test car to try it out when the first prototypes are produced.
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Oct 30 2016, 05:05 PM) *

What is wrong with your current brakes that you are trying to fix?

For stopping power--
Upgrade #1 == tires. Brakes stop the wheels; tires stop the car.
Upgrade #2 == rebuilding the brake system. Most of us have old and tired parts in our brake system. Refreshing the system will go a long way to improving the stopping distance in that case.

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Everything is new sans the MC and working great. Why you ask? On a back road, I scared the shit out of myself a few month's back when I was teaching a BMW a lesson. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) Power is useless if you can't slow it down.
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Why you ask? On a back road, I scared the shit out of myself a few month's back when I was teaching a BMW a lesson.


So it just didn't slow down enough? In that case, see my earlier post. Good tires, and a system in good shape will do it. Plus decent pads.

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76-914   Brake Upgrades for a 4 lug   Oct 30 2016, 08:46 AM
bdstone914   Looking to upgrade my present brake system but I ...   Oct 30 2016, 08:59 AM
jeffdon   Looking to upgrade my present brake system but I...   Oct 31 2016, 10:55 AM
1stworks   Looking to upgrade my present brake system but I...   Oct 31 2016, 05:50 PM
Dave_Darling   What is wrong with your current brakes that you ar...   Oct 30 2016, 06:05 PM
tomh   What is wrong with your current brakes that you a...   Jan 20 2017, 09:15 AM
76-914   [quote name='76-914' post='2417594' date='Oc...   Oct 31 2016, 08:09 AM
Dave_Darling   Why you ask? On a back road, I scared the shit out...   Nov 1 2016, 12:32 AM
stugray   I often laugh when people want to upgrade the stoc...   Oct 31 2016, 12:09 PM
Racer   Someone once told me, "If you can lock the t...   Oct 31 2016, 08:07 PM
draganc   Someone once told me, "If you can lock the ...   Oct 31 2016, 09:09 PM
Elliot Cannon   Someone once told me, "If you can lock the...   Oct 31 2016, 10:29 PM
draganc   [quote name='draganc' post='2418226' date='Oct 31...   Nov 2 2016, 08:17 AM
Elliot Cannon   [quote name='draganc' post='2418226' date='Oct 3...   Nov 2 2016, 11:22 AM
ClayPerrine   Remember, "it is better to look good than to...   Nov 2 2016, 11:29 AM
914_teener   Someone once told me, "If you can lock the ...   Nov 1 2016, 12:37 PM
Dave_Darling   I would agree that locking the tires up indicates...   Nov 1 2016, 04:16 PM
ThePaintedMan   Bruce, count me in. I am worried, since I track th...   Nov 1 2016, 07:17 AM
mbseto   ...On a back road, I scared the shit out of myse...   Nov 1 2016, 07:23 AM
Vacca Rabite   100% serious. Have Eric rebuild your stock calipe...   Nov 1 2016, 07:38 AM
zach914v8   Bruce put me on the list please.   Nov 1 2016, 09:00 AM
StratPlayer   I'm running the BMW 320i calipers up front, ha...   Nov 1 2016, 10:15 AM
Elliot Cannon   I'm running the BMW 320i calipers up front, h...   Nov 1 2016, 11:41 AM
ClayPerrine   On Betty's car we have the stock 4 lug brakes....   Nov 1 2016, 12:49 PM
76-914   Why you ask? On a back road, I scared the shit ou...   Nov 1 2016, 05:15 PM
Elliot Cannon   [quote name='Dave_Darling' post='2418277' date='O...   Nov 1 2016, 11:06 PM
914forme   :agree: I think you need Subaru brakes. :rotf...   Nov 2 2016, 12:43 PM
rhodyguy   <_<   Nov 1 2016, 05:52 PM
stugray   Sounds like your flex-line liners are swollen. Th...   Nov 1 2016, 06:51 PM
76-914   Sounds like your flex-line liners are swollen. T...   Nov 2 2016, 07:54 AM
Mueller   John Rogers had a set of the original billet hubs ...   Nov 2 2016, 01:28 PM
Korijo914   I had a ride, can't remember with whom, went a...   Nov 2 2016, 02:48 PM
Eric_Shea   Clay. Bed her pads again. http://www.pmbperforma...   Nov 2 2016, 07:00 PM
zach914v8   I bumped this to see if there was any progress in ...   Jan 18 2017, 02:32 PM
BigFour1973   I bumped this to see if there was any progress in...   Jan 18 2017, 05:15 PM
stugray   I bumped this to see if there was any progress in...   Jan 18 2017, 09:27 PM
zach914v8   [quote name='zach914v8' post='2445262' date='Jan ...   Jan 19 2017, 07:45 AM
Mueller   kerscher beetle brake rotor The problem with get...   Jan 19 2017, 03:40 PM
zach914v8   Mueller, old pal... Its like deja vu with you me a...   Jan 19 2017, 04:32 PM
Mueller   Mueller, old pal... Its like deja vu with you me ...   Jan 19 2017, 06:11 PM
zach914v8   Hey Mueller, you said Bruce is selling them in the...   Jan 19 2017, 04:55 PM
zach914v8   PM'd Bruce, his hubs are still in development....   Jan 19 2017, 07:39 PM
bdstone914   Some progress made. First samples had issues due ...   Jan 19 2017, 11:25 PM
anderssj   . . . BMW 320i calipers modified for use with ven...   Jan 21 2017, 07:14 AM
bdstone914   . . . BMW 320i calipers modified for use with ve...   Jan 21 2017, 07:40 AM
zach914v8   I think for 90% of the 914's out there, the st...   Jan 20 2017, 09:46 AM
stugray   I think for 90% of the 914's out there, the s...   Jan 20 2017, 11:39 PM
zach914v8   [quote name='zach914v8' post='2445968' date='Jan ...   Jan 21 2017, 06:26 AM
stugray   [quote name='zach914v8' post='2445968' date='Jan...   Jan 21 2017, 11:42 AM
zach914v8   [quote name='zach914v8' post='2446353' date='Jan ...   Jan 21 2017, 12:08 PM
stugray   [quote name='zach914v8' post='2446353' date='Jan...   Jan 21 2017, 12:13 PM
zach914v8   [quote name='zach914v8' post='2446448' date='Jan ...   Jan 21 2017, 12:27 PM
stugray   Wow, that is good to know. I guess I need to fig...   Jan 21 2017, 12:36 PM
zach914v8   Wow, that is good to know. I guess I need to fi...   Jan 21 2017, 12:40 PM
jmitro   bumping this thread as I'm contemplating my op...   Feb 21 2017, 10:56 AM
stugray   bumping this thread as I'm contemplating my o...   Feb 21 2017, 11:08 AM
jd74914   I have heard many horror stories about vented rot...   Feb 21 2017, 11:33 AM
mepstein   I have heard many horror stories about vented ro...   Feb 21 2017, 11:39 AM
stugray   I have heard many horror stories about vented ro...   Feb 21 2017, 05:14 PM
Racer   bumping this thread as I'm contemplating my o...   Feb 21 2017, 05:34 PM
mepstein   I wouldn't have the patience you guys do. If I...   Jan 20 2017, 02:31 PM
Mueller   The original intent of the 4 lug disc brake kit wa...   Jan 21 2017, 01:27 PM
stugray   The original intent of the 4 lug disc brake kit w...   Jan 22 2017, 01:23 PM
Mueller   The original intent of the 4 lug disc brake kit ...   Jan 22 2017, 01:31 PM
jmitro   true. do you use brake cooling ducting?   Feb 21 2017, 11:15 AM


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