 Stuck in Gear, new trans stuck in 5th gear |
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| astronomerdave |
 Sep 15 2009, 03:02 AM
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I just bought a newly rebuilt side shifter to upgrade my '72 tail shifter. Upon initial assembly of the shift linkage I had the trans in N, let the cabin shift lever find its place left-to-right (which was mostly upright), held it centered front-to-back, and tightened the bolt on the forked part under the shifter plate.
I shifted into R, backed out, then 1, and took it for a test drive. 1-2-3 no problem. But I couldn't find 4th gear; it looked like the shifter wasn't moving over far enough. So I figured it was just a simple shifter adjustment. Back in the garage I loosened the adjustment bolt, moved the shifter over a bit, and re-tightened. Sitting stationary in the garage I checked R-1-2-3-4-5 and then it was stuck. I couldn't move it at all at that point. (I actually thought it was stuck in 4th but now that I look at it, it could be 5th.) I removed the linkage and tried grabbing the little input shaft arm right on the trans but I cannot move it. There is a little bit of front-to-back play but not enough to change gears and no up-down movement. The questions: 1) Should this be possible and how is this possible to get stuck in gear? 2) Can I remedy this at home? The place I bought it offered to pay for shipping both ways so they'll take care of me if I have to do that. They suggested I first try to remove the two nuts securing the cover around the input shaft on the side and move some kind of fork in/out of some kind of detent. Not being a transmission guy I don't quite understand what I'm looking for. Plus, as I suspect, if the shift arm can't move whatever it is, how can I do this with my finger? I did remove this and pulled out the input shaft with its attached three-tanged arm, but not sure how to proceed now. Thanks... |
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| stugray |
Nov 18 2016, 04:54 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
Stupid question BUT -
There WAS fluid in there when you removed that cover right? QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Sep 15 2009, 07:11 AM)  The side shifter fork for the 4-5 gears is mis-adjusted. This is common in our transmissions after a number of years of wear on the intermediate plate. OR (He did say it just went through a rebuild) - Maybe they didnt tighten the shift fork lock down bolt after assembly. |
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| 914outlaw |
Nov 18 2016, 06:14 PM
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Dave Group: Members Posts: 201 Joined: 2-June 10 From: Central, NJ Member No.: 11,800 Region Association: North East States 
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Yes there was fluid. It all drained out after opening the console.
QUOTE(stugray @ Nov 18 2016, 05:54 PM) Stupid question BUT - There WAS fluid in there when you removed that cover right? QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Sep 15 2009, 07:11 AM) The side shifter fork for the 4-5 gears is mis-adjusted. This is common in our transmissions after a number of years of wear on the intermediate plate. OR (He did say it just went through a rebuild) - Maybe they didnt tighten the shift fork lock down bolt after assembly. |
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| 914outlaw |
Nov 18 2016, 08:10 PM
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Dave Group: Members Posts: 201 Joined: 2-June 10 From: Central, NJ Member No.: 11,800 Region Association: North East States
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I guess I'll try prying the shift fork back into place. Question is. Should it go back easily or will it take some force? I don't mess it up by accident.
QUOTE(914OUTLAW @ Nov 18 2016, 07:14 PM) Yes there was fluid. It all drained out after opening the console. QUOTE(stugray @ Nov 18 2016, 05:54 PM) Stupid question BUT - There WAS fluid in there when you removed that cover right? QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Sep 15 2009, 07:11 AM) The side shifter fork for the 4-5 gears is mis-adjusted. This is common in our transmissions after a number of years of wear on the intermediate plate. OR (He did say it just went through a rebuild) - Maybe they didnt tighten the shift fork lock down bolt after assembly. |
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| 914outlaw |
Nov 19 2016, 05:22 PM
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Dave Group: Members Posts: 201 Joined: 2-June 10 From: Central, NJ Member No.: 11,800 Region Association: North East States
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No luck moving it into neutral. Anyone know how to put it in neutral manually?
QUOTE(914OUTLAW @ Nov 18 2016, 09:10 PM) I guess I'll try prying the shift fork back into place. Question is. Should it go back easily or will it take some force? I don't mess it up by accident. QUOTE(914OUTLAW @ Nov 18 2016, 07:14 PM) Yes there was fluid. It all drained out after opening the console. QUOTE(stugray @ Nov 18 2016, 05:54 PM) Stupid question BUT - There WAS fluid in there when you removed that cover right? QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Sep 15 2009, 07:11 AM) The side shifter fork for the 4-5 gears is mis-adjusted. This is common in our transmissions after a number of years of wear on the intermediate plate. OR (He did say it just went through a rebuild) - Maybe they didnt tighten the shift fork lock down bolt after assembly. |
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| 914outlaw |
Nov 23 2016, 06:54 PM
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Dave Group: Members Posts: 201 Joined: 2-June 10 From: Central, NJ Member No.: 11,800 Region Association: North East States
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Here are the pictures of what mine looks like. Anyone know how to put it in neutral manually? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i12.photobucket.com-11800-1479948869.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i12.photobucket.com-11800-1479948869.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i12.photobucket.com-11800-1479948869.3.jpg) |
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Posts in this topic
astronomerdave Stuck in Gear Sep 15 2009, 03:02 AM
Gint :bump: because I have a trans that's in exact... Sep 15 2009, 07:58 AM ClayPerrine The side shifter fork for the 4-5 gears is mis-adj... Sep 15 2009, 08:11 AM jcd914 It sounds like you need to drop it out and drain i... Sep 15 2009, 01:36 PM scrz914
Yep. You can wail on the shifter with a hammer, ... Sep 15 2009, 11:55 PM astronomerdave here's a video of the movement I have:
fdJMAPA... Sep 16 2009, 12:43 AM astronomerdave a few photos looking inside after removing shift c... Sep 16 2009, 12:49 AM
914OUTLAW Having the same issue and I'm to figure out to... Nov 18 2016, 03:32 PM r_towle In the bottom of the last picture you will see the... Sep 16 2009, 06:35 AM stugray Slide the brass shift fork (top center of first ph... Nov 23 2016, 10:19 PM |
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