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Gunn1
post Nov 24 2016, 10:41 AM
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Anyone have a drive by wire set up on their 914? Looking for a cable-less solution to throttle control. Would be for a stock 75' 914 2.0liter. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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Mike Bellis
post Nov 25 2016, 01:20 AM
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I love my DBW in my 914. I'm running a Motronic 7.5 ECU and it's built in. I don't think I could ever go back to a standard cable.
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post Nov 25 2016, 05:41 AM
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QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Nov 25 2016, 01:20 AM) *

I love my DBW in my 914. I'm running a Motronic 7.5 ECU and it's built in. I don't think I could ever go back to a standard cable.


When you say "I could never go back to a standard cable" what have the Benefits of the DBW been for you. I like that one of them would be a cruise control.
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QUOTE(Gunn1 @ Nov 25 2016, 04:41 AM) *

QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Nov 25 2016, 01:20 AM) *

I love my DBW in my 914. I'm running a Motronic 7.5 ECU and it's built in. I don't think I could ever go back to a standard cable.


When you say "I could never go back to a standard cable" what have the Benefits of the DBW been for you. I like that one of them would be a cruise control.

I like the feel. In the past I had to run the cable loose as the clutch cable would interfere slightly if the throttle cable was too taught. The action and feedback from the DBW is smooth. Cruise control is good too. I can also use my VCDS to calibrate the throttle anytime as well.

The ardino with stepper motor controller would be the only way to do it if your ECU cannot. This seems like a good way to make a custom unit.

My VW/Audi unit works like this:
Throttle pedal had dual potentiometers. One runs at 0-1V DC and the other runs at 0-5V DC. There is a comparator circuit in the ECU that looks at both signals to make sure the percentage of voltage matches. The throttle body has another potentiometer to provide feedback to the ECU and stepper motor leads. If the 2 pedal signal do not match ou will get an error code. If the throttle body does not match, you will get an error code. The code is a "throttle angle not as expected". My VCDS allows me to re-calibrate as needed. If I leave the battery disconnected (usually do) the system will run an auto calibration with the first key on. The battery has to be off for a few days or it will not auto calibrate.

The adrino could use the pedal potentiometer and stepper motor in the TB very easily. The feedback loop may be a little more challenging with coding.

There is the slightest delay from pedal to TB but this in not really noticeable unless you go from 0 to WOT in under a second. Since i do not drive like this, it's not a problem. For me it's just super smooth throttle response.
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Gunn1   Drive by wire, getting rid of another cable   Nov 24 2016, 10:41 AM
jim_hoyland   Anyone have a drive by wire set up on their 914? ...   Nov 24 2016, 10:49 AM
bandjoey   Sounds like get rid of 1 cable to add 30 electric ...   Nov 24 2016, 10:53 AM
Gunn1   Sounds like get rid of 1 cable to add 30 electric...   Nov 24 2016, 10:59 AM
bandjoey   Bring it on. This could be your claim to fame. Wil...   Nov 24 2016, 11:28 AM
ConeDodger   Bring it on. This could be your claim to fame. Wi...   Nov 24 2016, 01:32 PM
stugray   This would be low complexity. One arduino module ...   Nov 24 2016, 11:29 AM
Mueller   This would be low complexity. One arduino module...   Nov 24 2016, 12:43 PM
Chris914n6   I've done the opposite on a 350z motor. What d...   Nov 24 2016, 12:11 PM
Gunn1   I've done the opposite on a 350z motor. What ...   Nov 24 2016, 12:20 PM
Rand   Don't feed the troll   Nov 24 2016, 01:23 PM
Elliot Cannon   I'm a big believer in keeping things simple bu...   Nov 24 2016, 01:27 PM
Mikey914   Sometimes best to keep it simple. Remember aircraf...   Nov 24 2016, 01:41 PM
Gunn1   Your probably right, must likely the reason there...   Nov 24 2016, 02:57 PM
Mueller   Your probably right, must likely the reason ther...   Nov 24 2016, 05:59 PM
Elliot Cannon   "Open the pod bay doors please HAL". ...   Nov 24 2016, 03:19 PM
stugray   I knew a brilliant guy at work that would say ...   Nov 24 2016, 04:21 PM
Chris914n6   I think the tube is just brazed on at the firewall...   Nov 24 2016, 04:45 PM
stugray   The project for a variable resistor type pedal is ...   Nov 24 2016, 06:22 PM
Chris914n6   The project for a variable resistor type pedal is...   Nov 25 2016, 12:00 AM
jd74914   This is one of those questions where if you have t...   Nov 24 2016, 06:48 PM
Gunn1   This is one of those questions where if you have ...   Nov 24 2016, 07:52 PM
stugray   The difference between an arduino and PLC is the ...   Nov 24 2016, 09:07 PM
Mueller   This is one of those questions where if you have...   Nov 25 2016, 11:50 AM
Mike Bellis   [quote name='Gunn1' post='2426808' date='Nov 24 2...   Nov 25 2016, 11:53 AM
Mueller   [quote name='Gunn1' post='2426808' date='Nov 24 ...   Nov 25 2016, 11:58 AM
Mike Bellis   I've seen those, he wants something can be i...   Nov 25 2016, 12:00 PM
Gunn1   [quote name='Mike Bellis' post='2427063' date='No...   Nov 25 2016, 01:29 PM
Gunn1   Wow great articles, and how fantastic to be able g...   Nov 24 2016, 09:36 PM
Mike Bellis   I love my DBW in my 914. I'm running a Motroni...   Nov 25 2016, 01:20 AM
Gunn1   I love my DBW in my 914. I'm running a Motron...   Nov 25 2016, 05:41 AM
Mike Bellis   I love my DBW in my 914. I'm running a Motro...   Nov 25 2016, 10:43 AM
somd914   Throttle cable tube is not a complex, expensive re...   Nov 25 2016, 08:04 AM


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