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> D-Jet vacuum hose question, Which hose, or Both?
Olympic 914
post Feb 10 2017, 07:45 AM
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Just finished up installing all the FI wiring harness and the vacuum hoses and now the engine compartment looks like a bowl of Spaghetti.

This engine started out as a 73 1.7 with the stock FI and I converted everything to a 2.0 system. I did use some of the original 1.7 parts as they were the same for both engines. But all the 2.0 FI parts ( throttle body, plenum, air filter housing ,etc.) where cobbled together from fleabay purchases and I am not sure what years those parts were from. Also used the original 73 1.7 FI wiring harness and ECU and had to make a couple extensions to get everything to hook up. Not much problem there, (except for trying to connect those ground wires under the plenum. )

Now to the question, I was using Bowlsby's vacuum diagram that is for a late 74 2.0 system and while hooking up the vacuum lines to the dizzy it seem that one line is no longer used.

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in the diagram above I have the green vacuum hose connected from the throttle body to the dizzy as shown by the Orange circles. I also have another vacuum port on my dizzy that I have connected to the second vacuum port on my throttle body shown by Blue circles.

Should I have both of these hooked up? or do I disconnect the Black vacuum line as shown in Bowlsby's diagram and just plug the second port on the throttle body.
This is what I have hooked up now.

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Is there a reason that the later versions did not have this second port hooked up?
What benefits are there to using the second line to the dizzy vacuum canister?

in picture below the green line from the throttle body is routed differently

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post Feb 10 2017, 10:41 AM
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That's pretty good advice but a couple of clarifications:

The two port throttle body is a 73 2.0L version, the 74 only has a single port - nothing to cap off on the 74 version.

It is better to keep the decel valve in place because it functions as a vacuum signal buffer to the MPS and offers no performance gain in taking it out. Removing it puts increased strain on the MPS diaphragm which is critical to the FI system.
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Feb 10 2017, 09:41 AM) *

That's pretty good advice but a couple of clarifications:

The two port throttle body is a 73 2.0L version, the 74 only has a single port - nothing to cap off on the 74 version.

It is better to keep the decel valve in place because it functions as a vacuum signal buffer to the MPS and offers no performance gain in taking it out. Removing it puts increased strain on the MPS diaphragm which is critical to the FI system.



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I absolutely agree with you regarding keeping the decal valve in place on a FI car
I agree with your point about bleeding off excessive vacuum signal that could damage the MPS

and I am theorizing a 2nd reason for keeping the Decel valve in place:
that being that the excessive vacuum signal on decal, can cause the diaphragm to flex excessively, and would also change the mixture excessively. So the opening of the decal valve keeps the mixture closer to the max vacuum signal mixture that is programed into the stock settings.

1)protecting the diaphragm
2)limiting the mixture change on decal or high vacuum settings


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Have you taken a look at pbanders D-jet page?

Tons of information and should help you sort out what parts work best together.

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Olympic 1.7   D-Jet vacuum hose question   Feb 10 2017, 07:45 AM
bdstone914   Does your distributor have one or two vacuum ports...   Feb 10 2017, 09:00 AM
mgphoto   Good looking job, you will have some issues mixing...   Feb 10 2017, 09:32 AM
Olympic 1.7   Does your distributor have one or two vacuum port...   Feb 10 2017, 10:37 AM
JamesM   I am using the 73 1.7 ECU (#037) and that was als...   Dec 4 2022, 11:57 PM
Olympic 1.7   Unless you have a concorse need, I would remove ...   Feb 10 2017, 10:42 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   That's pretty good advice but a couple of clar...   Feb 10 2017, 10:41 AM
brant   That's pretty good advice but a couple of cla...   Feb 10 2017, 04:09 PM
poorsche914   Have you taken a look at pbanders D-jet page? Ton...   Feb 10 2017, 09:45 PM
Olympic 1.7   Concerning the Decel valve. Just to add to the di...   Feb 11 2017, 01:31 PM
mgphoto   German's didn't think of everything. If th...   Feb 11 2017, 01:35 PM
Dave_Darling   The de acel valve adds air into the mixture reduc...   Feb 12 2017, 09:19 PM
mgphoto   The de acel valve adds air into the mixture redu...   Mar 7 2017, 02:43 PM
hndyhrr   The de acel valve adds air into the mixture redu...   Dec 4 2022, 07:43 PM
Olympic 1.7   I did rebuild my 043 MPS with one of Tangerines di...   Feb 11 2017, 01:48 PM
Bleyseng   You will have to tune the MPS even more to get it ...   Feb 12 2017, 11:09 AM
GregAmy   Camping a relevant question onto this discussion t...   Mar 7 2017, 08:28 AM
Olympic 1.7   Camping a relevant question onto this discussion ...   Mar 16 2017, 04:19 PM
Shredhead   Also jumping on this thread... I have a late ...   Mar 15 2017, 02:27 PM
The Cabinetmaker   Remove and plug both hoses for timing.   Mar 15 2017, 04:25 PM
Mark Henry   What is the correct placement for the T in the fue...   Jan 15 2021, 04:54 PM
Olympic 914   this thread was mainly about the vacuum lines. Bu...   Jan 16 2021, 07:26 AM
GregAmy   But in my setup I have the fuel line for the CSV c...   Jan 16 2021, 09:52 AM
Stratfink   Getting ready for a throttle body rebuild and plan...   Dec 4 2022, 02:14 PM
wonkipop   @Stratfink i suspect this is a bit similar to the...   Dec 4 2022, 03:24 PM
914sgofast2   I have a 1970 1.7liter without the deceleration v...   Dec 4 2022, 08:03 PM
JeffBowlsby   Decel valve was added in 1972. Could be retrofitt...   Dec 4 2022, 10:29 PM
wonkipop   pay attention @hndyhrr [b]@[url=http://www.914...   Dec 5 2022, 02:18 AM
JeffBowlsby   I had answered this previously in this same thread...   Dec 5 2022, 10:15 AM
wonkipop   I had answered this previously in this same threa...   Dec 5 2022, 05:42 PM
JeffBowlsby   In the wild and crazy portion of my mis-spent yout...   Dec 5 2022, 07:08 PM
wonkipop   In the wild and crazy portion of my mis-spent you...   Dec 6 2022, 06:12 PM


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