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Brake Upgrades for a 4 lug, what's available |
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Oct 30 2016, 08:46 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,647 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Looking to upgrade my present brake system but I want to keep it 4 lug AND keep the parking brake. Not to mention, staying out of the Poor House at the same time. I'm not opposed to moving up to a larger MC. Is there such an animal? TIA, Kent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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zach914v8 |
Jan 20 2017, 09:46 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 216 Joined: 26-November 10 From: Houston Member No.: 12,426 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I think for 90% of the 914's out there, the stock system working correctly is great. It is us, the 10% that have scary fast cars that need more. Its a strange feeling when your at the end of a drag strip trying to slow down from 115 mph and see the end of the road come up fast and your car wont stop. When you get out of the car and see you rotors glowing, you know that you have maxed out your brakes.
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stugray |
Jan 20 2017, 11:39 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
I think for 90% of the 914's out there, the stock system working correctly is great. It is us, the 10% that have scary fast cars that need more. Its a strange feeling when your at the end of a drag strip trying to slow down from 115 mph and see the end of the road come up fast and your car wont stop. When you get out of the car and see you rotors glowing, you know that you have maxed out your brakes. If you are maxing out your brakes from one drag racing pass you are doing something seriously wrong. That would barely give them a workout compared to how I abuse my stock brakes on the track. I brake about as hard as I can from 110 MPH (with 215 Hoosiers) on just one of 10 corners at the track, and do that for 20 minutes without stopping. I have only detected brake fade a few times |
jmitro |
Feb 21 2017, 10:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 713 Joined: 23-July 15 From: Oklahoma Member No.: 18,986 Region Association: None |
bumping this thread as I'm contemplating my options for brakes (vented rotors??) on the car for occasional track use. Car will be close to stock weight, I weigh 175lb, and the engine will be 120hp.
I have brand new solid rotors with PMB 5lug conversion, rebuilt calipers, new pads, lines, proportioning valve, 19mm master cylinder. I brake about as hard as I can from 110 MPH (with 215 Hoosiers) on just one of 10 corners at the track, and do that for 20 minutes without stopping. I have only detected brake fade a few times based on your experience, I'm thinking my desire for vented rotors is probably not necessary? thoughts? I'm using my stock Boge strut bodies; if I want vented rotors using Porsche calipers and 5lug, I'm assuming the only option is to convert to 911 front struts? |
Racer |
Feb 21 2017, 05:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1,073 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
bumping this thread as I'm contemplating my options for brakes (vented rotors??) on the car for occasional track use. Car will be close to stock weight, I weigh 175lb, and the engine will be 120hp. I have brand new solid rotors with PMB 5lug conversion, rebuilt calipers, new pads, lines, proportioning valve, 19mm master cylinder. I brake about as hard as I can from 110 MPH (with 215 Hoosiers) on just one of 10 corners at the track, and do that for 20 minutes without stopping. I have only detected brake fade a few times based on your experience, I'm thinking my desire for vented rotors is probably not necessary? thoughts? I'm using my stock Boge strut bodies; if I want vented rotors using Porsche calipers and 5lug, I'm assuming the only option is to convert to 911 front struts? Occasional track use will come down to driver skill and the tracks involved. Going back, I had a 2056/4 with 4 lug stock brakes. Like most track diving geniuses, I knew the only way to go faster was to improve the car (since the drover was already perfect ; ) ) .. So after 2 years of saving my pennies I upgraded to 911 front end (3.2 Carrera brakes) and never had an ounce of brake fade thereafter. For me, I was running 4-5 events (10-14 track days/year). Yes, the 5 bolt 911 brakes are the solution, hence the factory using them on the 914/6. The stock brakes are fine for a stock car and can likely handle up to 110-120hp. Track driving is about HEAT management. If you want to avoid the $$ to change to 911 brakes, do what others have done: 1) Quality lines 2) Quality fluid 3) Great brake pads 4) AIR - Get lots of air to the front brakes 5) Learn to drive better (brake less, carry more speed). |
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