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| Mueller |
 Dec 5 2014, 01:05 PM
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I know this had been tried 7+ years ago, I was wondering if since then has anyone done a watercooled conversion and not put the radiator in the front trunk?
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| mepstein |
Feb 5 2017, 06:27 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,764 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Why don't you do it and report back. You don't know until you try. Right?
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| sotaro |
Feb 27 2017, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 5 2017, 04:27 PM)  Why don't you do it and report back. You don't know until you try. Right? I am intrigued by the possibility of adding some kind of skin radiator to the rear trunk hatch. This would be a lot more work than it sounds, but it might be possible to reduce the amount of traditional tube and fin radiator area. Other body additions might include a wing or duck tail. Having two trunks is a great feature, and retaining it is a worth goal. Is it worth giving up high power? On another topic, the air cooled engine cooling fins are usually quite a bit hotter than the fins of a radiator, often 50 to 100 degrees hotter. This reduces the amount fin area needed needed which is important given the limited fin area possible. Air flow is expensive in horsepower terms. As I remember, the 917 fan took 75 horsepower at maximum rpm. |
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Mueller Any successful radiator in engine compartment conversions? Dec 5 2014, 01:05 PM
76-914 Robert (rotary914) has. However, there is lots of ... Dec 5 2014, 02:40 PM shoguneagle Master Mueller's "engineering mind" ... Dec 5 2014, 02:57 PM
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Master Mueller's "engineering mind... Dec 5 2014, 03:03 PM effutuo101 My 2.5 suby turbo goes up to get the final bracket... Dec 5 2014, 03:21 PM d914 jeep cherokee rad is like 10 x 36 and they make al... Dec 5 2014, 04:42 PM GeorgeRud I always thought that using two small radiators in... Dec 5 2014, 04:54 PM mepstein I would love for the radiator to work in the engin... Dec 5 2014, 07:45 PM bulitt
I would love for the radiator to work in the engi... Dec 9 2014, 02:28 AM mepstein
I would love for the radiator to work in the eng... Dec 9 2014, 05:32 AM Chris914n6 ^^ Countach and Diablo.
GT engine lid and some sc... Dec 5 2014, 08:00 PM DBCooper Uh huh, that's the theory.... Dec 5 2014, 09:29 PM effutuo101 So, running an air cooled big 6 gets enough air. W... Dec 5 2014, 09:34 PM Mueller
So, running an air cooled big 6 gets enough air. ... Dec 5 2014, 09:49 PM SirAndy So, running an air cooled big 6 gets enough air. W... Dec 6 2014, 11:36 PM 904svo
[quote name='Mueller' post='2118709' date='Dec 5 ... Dec 7 2014, 09:57 PM SirAndy Here is my rear mounted radiator in my 904 kit car... Dec 7 2014, 10:04 PM 904svo
Here is my rear mounted radiator in my 904 kit ca... Dec 7 2014, 10:16 PM Brian Mifsud
[quote name='Mueller' post='2118709' date='Dec 5 ... Jun 26 2015, 12:23 PM Mueller
Adding to this.. the 911 engine uses Mechanical... Jun 26 2015, 04:37 PM Brian Mifsud
hmmm, maybe we are looking at this the wrong wa... Jun 29 2015, 10:49 AM SirAndy Years ago, at an autocross, I had to laugh at the... Jun 29 2015, 09:14 PM Brian Mifsud
Years ago, at an autocross, I had to laugh at th... Jun 30 2015, 10:42 AM Dave_Darling ...taking furnace ducting, and running it straight... Jun 30 2015, 09:02 AM SirAndy water is a more efficient medium than air so
And ... Dec 6 2014, 11:41 PM worn
water is a more efficient medium than air so
And... Jun 26 2015, 07:11 PM Dave_Darling It's also been done with an N/A Scooby motor. ... Dec 5 2014, 09:41 PM thelogo I always though a rear spoiler with a radiator en... Dec 5 2014, 10:39 PM r_towle Mike, don't do it.
Keep it aircooled and drive... Dec 5 2014, 10:46 PM veekry9 https://www.google.ca/search?q=f1+chassis&a...f-e%... Dec 6 2014, 02:35 AM veekry9
The fan is a centrifugal pump, just like any cent... Dec 6 2014, 03:10 AM mgp4591 Interesting side rad setup... would you have that ... Dec 6 2014, 03:16 AM veekry9
Step to the left.
Step to the right. Dec 6 2014, 04:33 AM veekry9
Not the first. Dec 6 2014, 07:24 AM mepstein it's easy to cool when the car is moving. It... Dec 6 2014, 07:46 AM DBCooper Yup, lots of theory to go around, but to answer th... Dec 6 2014, 07:47 AM veekry9 http://www.performanceforums.com/forums/sh...he-po... Dec 6 2014, 08:25 AM 76-914 I love to watch this subject resurface. A lot of a... Dec 6 2014, 10:04 AM veekry9 "RSK must be Peter Harburg's, because the... Dec 6 2014, 11:48 AM messix the advantage of front mount is that once the car ... Dec 6 2014, 12:35 PM veekry9 If you planning to race it exclusively,a rad mount... Dec 6 2014, 11:24 PM thelogo Where do water cooled 911 s mount the radiator
C... Dec 7 2014, 07:07 PM Chris914n6 ^^ most newer mid engine cars do the corner rads a... Dec 7 2014, 08:27 PM veekry9 http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000116-29.ht... Dec 7 2014, 09:03 PM mgp4591 There's alot of room for the radiator out in b... Dec 7 2014, 10:13 PM JRust My NA 2.5 subaru leaves a bunch of room in the tru... Dec 7 2014, 10:19 PM Andyrew I think it has all to do with the size of the moto... Dec 8 2014, 09:22 AM thelogo How about Targa top mount
As crazy as it sounds ... Dec 8 2014, 11:32 AM veekry9
There's alot of room for the radiator out in ... Dec 8 2014, 12:27 PM Chris914n6 I crunched some numbers.
Based on a few sedans I ... Dec 8 2014, 12:33 PM fiid It seems doable to do radiators in the engine bay,... Dec 8 2014, 12:34 PM McMark Maybe a centrifugal fan on the crank wheel that bl... Dec 8 2014, 12:53 PM SirAndy Logically, if a 3.6 can work, you should be able t... Dec 8 2014, 01:38 PM sixnotfour :D Dec 8 2014, 02:12 PM DBCooper The question was whether a radiator had been succe... Dec 8 2014, 03:21 PM 76-914 Paul makes a good point re: heat sink. I watched i... Dec 8 2014, 08:13 PM Andyrew You know what would be an interesting fail safe, I... Dec 8 2014, 10:50 PM RobW You could mount an oil cooler right behind the 914... Dec 9 2014, 12:03 AM veekry9
You know what would be an interesting fail safe, ... Dec 9 2014, 01:06 AM timothy_nd28 Laying a radiator flat in the front trunk?
Jan 19 2015, 01:28 AM Mueller
Laying a radiator flat in the front trunk?
Go... Jan 19 2015, 04:45 PM Mike Bellis I had a radiator built to lay flat in the front tr... Jan 19 2015, 09:27 AM Andyrew
I had a radiator built to lay flat in the front t... Jan 19 2015, 09:57 AM rdauenhauer Scott Thacher was the guy who showed up in WCR 05 ... Jan 19 2015, 09:44 AM rick 918-S
Scott Thacher was the guy who showed up in WCR 05... Jun 26 2015, 03:25 PM Andyrew
[quote name='rdauenhauer' post='2135972' date='Ja... Jun 26 2015, 06:25 PM DBCooper Cool, this thread came back. In the meantime I ra... Jan 19 2015, 10:05 AM DBCooper Unfortunately a lot of rear-mount cooling projects... Jan 19 2015, 10:58 AM 3d914 OK, here's mine. Not done, but in process. I h... Jan 19 2015, 01:59 PM Mueller Crazy idea time.....
Still have "something... Jan 19 2015, 04:57 PM DBCooper I've seen finned aluminum tubing a bit like th... Jan 19 2015, 06:56 PM Dave_Darling Talk to Chuck at Elephant Racing in SJ. They do m... Jan 19 2015, 07:10 PM timothy_nd28 Trane has been using this for decades, highly high... Jan 19 2015, 07:55 PM Mueller
Trane has been using this for decades, highly hig... Jan 19 2015, 08:03 PM Mueller New Lamborghini Huracan has rear mounted radiators... Jun 26 2015, 10:45 AM Chris H. Yes, always pull air, never push (Mike Bellis).
... Jun 26 2015, 05:22 PM 914forme Motorcycle Rads I have thought about several times... Jun 26 2015, 07:50 PM Chris914n6 Looking at racing rads for toyota celica/mr2/spyde... Jun 29 2015, 02:39 PM Andyrew You talking about these puppies?
http://www.ebay.... Jun 29 2015, 08:51 PM Chris H.
You talking about these puppies?
http://www.ebay... Jun 29 2015, 11:40 PM Chris914n6
You talking about these puppies?
http://www.ebay... Jun 30 2015, 02:15 PM Bill D For the TD I was able to fit the radiator next to ... Jun 30 2015, 06:36 PM Mike Bellis
For the TD I was able to fit the radiator next to... Jun 30 2015, 07:24 PM Bill D
My project is no where near as ambitious as your... Jul 1 2015, 05:57 AM Andyrew Impressive that you were able to make that work... Jun 30 2015, 09:42 PM matthepcat I like it.
As I understand it the diesel runs coo... Jul 1 2015, 09:43 AM Bill D
I like it.
As I understand it the diesel runs co... Jul 1 2015, 12:01 PM flmont Iam considering a 4.3 ltr chevy v6 system,.with a... Jul 7 2015, 07:13 PM Mueller Not a 914, but I think close enough, went to small... Feb 5 2017, 04:13 PM Mueller I think what might help for any of these type swap... Feb 5 2017, 04:16 PM Rand Aren't there examples of mid-engined sports/su... Feb 27 2017, 10:03 PM mepstein Are the radiators in boxters in the front? Feb 28 2017, 06:27 AM Andyrew Yes. Boxsters have two small ones and boxster S... Feb 28 2017, 07:05 AM mepstein
Yes. Boxsters have two small ones and boxster S... Feb 28 2017, 07:49 AM Andyrew
Yes. Boxsters have two small ones and boxster S... Feb 28 2017, 09:17 AM 914forme Positive pressure is king to cooling.
And there i... Feb 28 2017, 09:03 AM Mueller Twin side mounted radiators, good enough for a big... Feb 28 2017, 04:54 PM mepstein
Twin side mounted radiators, good enough for a bi... Feb 28 2017, 07:04 PM |
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