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EdwardBlume
post May 18 2017, 12:25 PM
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Was driving last week and the generator light came on, went off, came on again, and then it stayed on.

Belt is on, VR was swapped with another I have around (and another is on the way), ground at the tranny is connected and good, battery charged and tightened, fuses 8 & 9 are good and new, spun to make sure they are connected.

Voltage meter is showing 12 to 13.

Anything else I can troubleshoot before I pull the generator? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Jun 21 2017, 07:06 PM
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New alternator, battery, and voltage regulator. Still on... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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post Jun 23 2017, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(Edward Blume @ Jun 21 2017, 09:06 PM) *

New alternator, battery, and voltage regulator. Still on... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)


So all the electrical components are new and the GEN light is still on?

As mentioned before, if all components are new and the GEN light is still on, then likely you have a wiring issue. The only way to track this down is to measure the system in different points to see if you have the correct voltages.

See the 914 charging system diagram below. It may look complicated but it is quite simple; only 4 components: Alternator, Voltage Regulator, Battery, and GEN light.

Short version of what's going on starting with the alternator. The flux capacitor looking thing in the middle is the STATOR which are the stationary windings and produces a 3-phase AC voltage when running. Above it is the ARMATURE which is a voltage-controlled magnet and is the spinning part. There are 3 banks of diodes, one for each of the 3-phase STATOR windings.

The bottom right bank of diodes is connected to ground and is the return path for current. The top right bank charges the battery. Heavy currents can flow in this path. The top left bank drives the voltage regulator and the left side of the GEN light.

The voltage at alternator pins D+ (top left diode bank) and B+ (top right diode bank) are the same voltage (12.6V to 14V) during operation. When B+ equals D+, the GEN light is out.

Follow the D+ wire from the alternator to the left side of the GEN light. Now follow the B+ wire from the alternator through Fuse 9 to the right side of the GEN light.

In operation, D+ and B+ are the same voltage and the GEN light is OFF. Your GEN light is ON. Do this test:
1) with ignition off, pull the gauge out with the GEN light.
2) Start the car and rev the engine a few times to bootstrap the alternator.
3) Measure the voltage (to ground) on both sides of the GEN light; they should be the same voltage.
4) Write down the voltages and report back on this thread.
5) Depends on what you find in 4). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


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Edward Blume   Generator Light   May 18 2017, 12:25 PM
Edward Blume   And its running fine.....   May 18 2017, 12:26 PM
BillC   Check the voltage at the battery using a DVOM. Sh...   May 18 2017, 12:35 PM
Elliot Cannon   Check the voltage at the battery with the engine r...   May 18 2017, 12:35 PM
Edward Blume   Thanks guys. The battery is coming through at 12.2...   May 18 2017, 12:51 PM
porschetub   IF the voltage is higher when running you have cha...   May 18 2017, 02:16 PM
Edward Blume   IF the voltage is higher when running you have ch...   May 18 2017, 03:50 PM
Elliot Cannon   IF the voltage is higher when running you have c...   May 18 2017, 07:40 PM
Edward Blume   New alternator, battery, and voltage regulator. St...   Jun 21 2017, 07:06 PM
porschetub   New alternator, battery, and voltage regulator. S...   Jun 21 2017, 11:26 PM
Kansas 914   You don't have an LED in the gauge do you?   Jun 22 2017, 06:34 AM
Edward Blume   You don't have an LED in the gauge do you? N...   Jun 22 2017, 10:45 AM
Spoke   New alternator, battery, and voltage regulator. S...   Jun 23 2017, 07:40 PM
Krieger   Test the wire after the vr back to the light. Is ...   Jun 22 2017, 07:57 AM
Edward Blume   Test the wire after the vr back to the light. Is...   Jun 22 2017, 10:48 AM
rhodyguy   Good used (tested) or new on the alt change?   Jun 22 2017, 11:03 AM
Edward Blume   Good used (tested) or new on the alt change? Goo...   Jun 22 2017, 03:41 PM
Edward Blume   Here's the one I pulled. Looks like the boot m...   Jun 22 2017, 04:18 PM
GregAmy   Here's the one I pulled. Looks like the boot ...   Jun 23 2017, 07:49 AM
rhodyguy   Are there arching marks on the inside face of the ...   Jun 23 2017, 07:30 AM
914Tom   only my 2c. If Voltage is correct an it is so. Alt...   Jun 23 2017, 08:00 AM
Edward Blume   Thanks for the great information Spoke! I...   Jul 31 2017, 04:07 PM
porschetub   What did they find wrong with it ?   Jul 31 2017, 04:45 PM
Edward Blume   It tested good but when he opened it up, the diode...   Jul 31 2017, 05:01 PM
Edward Blume   I got the new alternator installed. Fully charged ...   Sep 28 2017, 03:09 PM
Spoke   I got the new alternator installed. Fully charged...   Sep 28 2017, 06:31 PM
Edward Blume   I got the new alternator installed. Fully charge...   Sep 28 2017, 09:16 PM
Edward Blume   I re-read your instructions to test it to ground. ...   Sep 28 2017, 03:38 PM
Perry Kiehl   $200 is a lot. The list for a Bosch reman at...   Sep 28 2017, 04:52 PM
Edward Blume   $200 is a lot. The list for a Bosch reman a...   Sep 28 2017, 09:02 PM
Spoke   Rob, Copying my PM to you with additional info: ...   Sep 28 2017, 06:25 PM
Edward Blume   Rob, Copying my PM to you with additional info: ...   Sep 28 2017, 09:13 PM


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