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> Oldest 914 restoration know to man, 9140430801 is finally getting some love
914forme
post Jan 23 2017, 08:58 PM
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Well I am pretty darn excited to start this project. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) It has been a long time coming.

Oldest 914-6 Restoration know to man has just gotten kicked into high gear.

The back story:

My father had owned several sports car and sporty cars in his life. His then current pride and joy was a Lotus Elan. That car gave me my first addiction into speed and driving fun. It was 1970s and I can remember sitting in the passenger seat, going down a road, top down. Wind was blowing through my blond curly locks. Yes I did have hair (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) And all I could see was the wood dashboard in front of me, and if I looked out the side, I could see the tops of the phone poles. If I looked to my left I could see my father grinning from ear to ear, like a cheesier cat. The other items I remember from my Lotus days was my father constantly under the hood. And the fact it was so low, that we would drive under the parking lot gates.

So it was a sad day when the lotus was sold. He did it just the same as I would have if in his shoes. He sold it to get the money to build his house. Dad by trade was an architect, I suppose he still is, he is just not practicing any more. So he built a very nice modern house for the three of use, and we moved. Boring cars filled the driveway at this point. A Ford Pinto, yes the blowy up kind. And an Audi 100, that was beige. That car was purchased wrecked. My father fixed it all up, and well we found out why it was wrecked. Every time it rained that car got hit. You would be sitting at a light and bam, rear ended. Driving down the road and get T-boned. It was crazy. Mom and Dad sold that car for all things a Triumph Stag. Really a lovely car after my father rewired the entire thing to exercise the Lucus Damons.

One day leaving his office he looked over at the repo lot next door. There sitting rather sadly at the back of the lot was a bright orange Porsche. Dad’s co worker and fellow car rebel rouser convinced him to go over and take a look. He knew it was a 914, he did not know until he got to the back of it what it really was. Sitting on two flat tires, with steel wheels and ugly hubcaps was a 914-6. Not sure how, but he got the money together and bought the -6. I can remember riding it just once. Not far from home we heard a odd sound coming from behind us, Dad shut off the engine, tossed it into neutral and we coasted home. Lucky it was a down hill run. Pushed it into the garage, and all hell cut loose.

Diagnosis from all his SCCA buds was more than likely a bad chain tensioner. Need to drop the engine and see what was up. Dad being Dad decided that was the perfect time to take it down to a almost bare chassis and start restoring the car. This was 1976 the car is only 6 years young. I spent many a day and night out in the garage with dad. He would be working on the -6 I would be playing like I was driving it.

Years past as I got older, I got into racing, my father supported me. First up was the gravity drags otherwise know as soap box derby. I ran these for three years until I got bored with it. Then cam motorcycles and motocross. We then switched to auto-x and that stuck with me for the rest of my life.

We also worked on a bunch of cars in that time frame. The first one we did together was when I was 14. It was a 1965 Jeep CJ5 he traded for some work we did on a guys basement. We got that finished and well Jeeps are not my thing. So we got Karmann Ghia, built it into a sleeper with bunch of parts we had from a 914-4 parts car. Redid the engine with a type-4 used a 911 5-speed, and all the suspension was redone. Going down one of the roads in the area, I keep hearing this loud roar of a V8 coming up onto me, we would hit the curves and it would fad away, and finally got out of the twisties, and heard it again. It was a guy in a vet, who I must have been really pissed off, as he could not keep up with my little VW in the corners. When I went to college dad drove the car to keep it “limber”. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) His six sat on the side line.

I graduated, got a job with Nancy Lowe, which also meant they found out I was into 914s and well I got to know Jon also. My daughter was born, and a month latter we found my 914-4.

Dad helped us build our house, and work on various cars, and vans, keep our budget down a bit as a young family. A few years ago, I got a Miata for my wife, for our 25th anniversary. We where married in 1989. The car built in November of 1989. She wanted one back in 1990, it is like I made the dream come true, only 25 years latter. I restored that car, and took my dad for a ride, he was hooked. And Mom was hooked too, so they found a 1994 M edition they liked. We picked it up, and I restored that car for them.

Years have passed and I have become blessed enough to have a career that I can afford to give a little back to my parents.

The Plan:

Originally it was going to be how I remembered the car. It did not have the sail vinyl or the warts on the front fender. He also had a top painted to match. I would like to build it the way he had envisioned it. As of today that plan might have changed. Some where along the way, he put the warts back on, and added the sail trim and vinyl and added a stock top.

I still plan on adding the following items.

I have a bunch of vintage speed parts I have been collecting over the years and picked up a few just recently. Thank you Scott, and Kerry your parts will be going to good use. And thank all you people who sold me stuff at the swaps like it was worth nothing in the 80s and 90s.

Engine: rebuild, add pressure feed tensioners, and turbo valve covers. Other items we will see what is wrong with the engine, it has been sitting a very long time.

Transmission: Add a LSD, convert the car to a side shifter, using Tangerine Racing parts, and JWest shifter.

Suspension: Add bushings, Bilstein Shocks, H&H Swaybar up front, maybe a stock rear swaybar. I have a set of mono ball front strut supports, and rear adjustable spring perches. Will also add turbo tie rods and a rack spacer to help with bump steer.

Brakes: will be stock, if not functioning PMB will get a call, and parts shipped out to them for rebuilding. I will also add bronze bushings to the pedal cluster.

Wheels and tires: I have a set of stock Mahles, hate to drive on them. I currently have a set of fake Mahles on it. Still looking for a set of Minilites in 6.5x15”. I should have never sold them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) I purchased my first set of Jon and Nancy Lowe. They used them on Nancy’s yellow 914-6 for autocross.

Fuel: Tangerine will come to the rescue again with a set of Chris’ fuel lines.

Electrical: JWest fuse box will be added, along with Spoke LEDs. A set of Period correct Cibie Z beams will be added, and a set of Cibie fogs will be added also. Audio wise I will add a small bluetooth amp, and leave the stock radio in place, just disconnected from the speakers.

Interior: Stock, but I will add a set of seat heaters to keep cold at bay. If passenger seat is not comfy for the wife, we will convert it over to a late style seat and back pad. At that point maybe change to a set of aftermarket seats. I would love a set of GTS LeMans (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)

Exterior: I guessing it will be stock now. Though I am torn I liked the clean lines with out the sail panels vinyl, and warts, with the painted top. That is how Dad originally wanted it.

If the engine is not up to snuff, I will go with a small bump using Nickies, and a bump in compression. And some different cams, and a set of larger heat exchangers. Though I am really hoping to keep the costs down and live with the stock stuff it is in good working order.

Almost everything I will be doing is completely reversible, except a few exceptions and even they can be fixed if people want to drive a 914-6 with out sway bars. I would gladly do it if some one offered me stupid money for the car. As of right now it is more about the memories and giving back to my father.

So now I just need to get cracking: Wanting this done before April, would love to take Dad for a drive this spring. So what that also means, my 914 which is part of the Build Off Challenge will be resting for a little while. I had already packed up most of the part in anticipation of starting this project.

This is the garage it was stored in for 40 years.

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Saturday I brought it to my shop. Rented a U-haul trailer as all my trailers are up at the farm. Car has not seen the light of day in 40+ years.

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Now the for the fun part! Determining what is left todo on the car, and come up with a game plan.
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post Aug 5 2017, 06:55 PM
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A bit of progress today as I finally got the front brake lines to bust loose. I bit of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) and lots of ATF mixed with Acetone, finally got them off both sides of the front.

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That means I can start working on the front swaybar install now.

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I have also decided that a none running 914-6 is a not fun 914-6. So I got a few parts in today, and will be picking up something to help move this along from Mark this week.

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This might help you identify what I am about to do.

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And these should help you a lot. Cats is out of the bag (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

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Manifold and other parts to bust on a set of Triple Speeds to a 911 engine. EFI and modern spark in a 914-6. I really hate carbs and was going to stick with them, but now the stock carbs, will stick with the original engine and trans.

No reason to screw up original parts when you can add a bit more go while in the end spending less or the same dough (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

That is it for the updates, hopefully I will get to getting the front swaybar installed and some other bits done tomorrow in-between painting another project.
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QUOTE(914forme @ Aug 5 2017, 04:55 PM) *

A bit of progress today as I finally got the front brake lines to bust loose. I bit of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) and lots of ATF mixed with Acetone, finally got them off both sides of the front.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

That means I can start working on the front swaybar install now.

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I have also decided that a none running 914-6 is a not fun 914-6. So I got a few parts in today, and will be picking up something to help move this along from Mark this week.

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This might help you identify what I am about to do.

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And these should help you a lot. Cats is out of the bag (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

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Manifold and other parts to bust on a set of Triple Speeds to a 911 engine. EFI and modern spark in a 914-6. I really hate carbs and was going to stick with them, but now the stock carbs, will stick with the original engine and trans.

No reason to screw up original parts when you can add a bit more go while in the end spending less or the same dough (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

That is it for the updates, hopefully I will get to getting the front swaybar installed and some other bits done tomorrow in-between painting another project.


Very interesting.. I am considering something like this.. I want to use a stock airfilter assembly and would go with fuel injection in trade of my webers if I could..



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914forme   Oldest 914 restoration know to man   Jan 23 2017, 08:58 PM
914Sixer   We will be waiting for the progress reports :popc...   Jan 23 2017, 09:07 PM
mepstein   Screw the build off challenge. This car's the ...   Jan 23 2017, 09:13 PM
Cracker   Stephen - I really enjoyed your read - excellent. ...   Jan 23 2017, 09:18 PM
amfab   Great story, It was my dad that got me into Porsch...   Jan 23 2017, 10:29 PM
SKL1   Yes this will be fun to follow- I too inherited t...   Jan 23 2017, 10:50 PM
tygaboy   Awesome. :popcorn: Can't hardly wait to see ...   Jan 23 2017, 11:13 PM
Coondog   A honorable project your doing for your dad..........   Jan 23 2017, 11:26 PM
sixnotfour   :first: Nice, I have my Dads -6 too,   Jan 24 2017, 02:26 AM
RobW   There's something about Dad's cars..... ...   Jan 24 2017, 04:55 AM
Cairo94507   What a terrific read. I am looking forward to see...   Jan 24 2017, 08:39 AM
mb911   Very cool how come larger heat exchangers? I would...   Jan 24 2017, 03:41 PM
gms   looks like a great project, does it even need pain...   Jan 24 2017, 06:12 PM
porbmw   NICE! Looking forward to some more pics...and ...   Jan 24 2017, 07:45 PM
914forme   Thank you all for the supportive comments. Ben, N...   Jan 24 2017, 08:32 PM
Van914   Stephen, Can't wait to see it. Very nice! ...   Jan 25 2017, 04:35 AM
76-914   Somebody, hide the welder. :rotfl:   Jan 25 2017, 09:46 AM
914forme   Kent, :agree: that being said there will be just ...   Jan 25 2017, 08:10 PM
SixerJ   Kent, :agree: that being said there will be just...   Jan 26 2017, 05:07 PM
914forme   Can you document how you do the swaybar reinforce...   Feb 11 2017, 07:32 PM
914forme   Well I continued on with my work over the weekend....   Feb 21 2017, 09:00 PM
Gcthielen   Stephen, Great story! I too am in Dayton and j...   Feb 27 2017, 09:18 PM
Cairo94507   Gcthielen - Is that a '71 Six in gold metallic...   Feb 28 2017, 07:29 AM
Gcthielen   Gcthielen - Is that a '71 Six in gold metalli...   Feb 28 2017, 09:26 AM
mepstein   I know you already have the parts but if you want ...   Feb 28 2017, 08:22 AM
914forme   George Cool project, we will have to get together ...   Feb 28 2017, 08:57 AM
rick 918-S   Wow! Great car! Great Story! :headbang...   Feb 28 2017, 07:06 PM
914forme   Thank you Rick it is greatly appreciated   Mar 3 2017, 08:57 PM
914forme   So to get you caught up with my progress. First u...   Mar 5 2017, 07:51 PM
GeorgeRud   I heard that paint my be preferable for the suspen...   Mar 5 2017, 08:55 PM
mepstein   Shop around on the powdercoating. Shops can really...   Mar 5 2017, 09:27 PM
914forme   Yes, I am thinking I will go with paint for now. ...   Mar 24 2017, 08:28 PM
914forme   Not a lot of updates lately. We have been a bit b...   Jun 6 2017, 08:20 PM
914forme   Well I have been called out as a slacker thread so...   Jul 21 2017, 07:43 PM
Dion   Nice progress Stephen. Looking good. I like th...   Jul 22 2017, 09:22 AM
914forme   Well in the quest to get this done, I am working o...   Jul 24 2017, 08:24 PM
914forme   A bit of progress today as I finally got the front...   Aug 5 2017, 06:55 PM
mb911   A bit of progress today as I finally got the fron...   Aug 5 2017, 07:46 PM
jd74914   That looks like a nice piece of kit! My dad an...   Aug 5 2017, 08:27 PM
914forme   Ben, My stock Air filter as the I got a bit of fu...   Aug 6 2017, 06:23 AM
mb911   Ben, My stock Air filter as the I got a bit of f...   Aug 6 2017, 07:07 AM
914forme   Well after a very frustrating day at work, I got b...   Aug 25 2017, 06:24 PM
mb911   Keep up the good work.. I actually made a little p...   Aug 25 2017, 07:13 PM
914forme   Ben that is great. So I spent lots of time today ...   Aug 26 2017, 06:28 PM
white1975   I have tranny tools if you need to borrow them to ...   Aug 26 2017, 09:07 PM
914forme   Thank you for the offer, I'll let you know if ...   Aug 27 2017, 05:59 AM
914forme   So for an update. I am officially stalled. Not d...   Oct 18 2017, 06:40 AM
76-914   So for an update. I am officially stalled. Not ...   Oct 18 2017, 07:06 PM
914forme   Thank you Kent, still messing with electrical :sc...   Oct 22 2017, 05:04 PM
914forme   Now to keep me off the slacker list :poke: Did a...   Oct 22 2017, 05:39 PM
NoEcm   I tend to measure project success and the amount ...   Dec 1 2017, 08:24 PM
simonjb   Now to keep me off the slacker list :poke: Did ...   Jul 15 2018, 10:27 AM
mepstein   Thanks for the “how to” on the sway bar. I nee...   Oct 22 2017, 06:01 PM
914forme   Your welcome, thank you for letting me know it was...   Oct 23 2017, 05:29 AM
McMark   Your welcome, thank you for letting me know it wa...   Oct 23 2017, 06:08 AM
914forme   Thanks for the tip Mark :beer3:   Oct 23 2017, 06:14 AM
914forme   got in the shop tonight, and finished up the swayb...   Oct 27 2017, 07:10 PM
914forme   Got a bit more done today, might keep me out of th...   Nov 22 2017, 08:29 PM
914forme   Been traveling for work. here is the update of wh...   Dec 1 2017, 08:05 PM
Amenson   Welded up Did you actually use your Tig wel...   Dec 1 2017, 10:04 PM
914forme   Welded up Did you actually use your Tig we...   Dec 2 2017, 08:20 AM
jd74914   And a Long socket that has been cut and prepped ,...   Dec 2 2017, 09:09 AM
mb911   Its mig.   Dec 2 2017, 08:14 AM
914forme   Well a bit of update. TIG up an running, long lon...   Jan 16 2018, 07:48 PM
tomeric914   Like everything with this car one step forward 2 ...   Jan 18 2018, 10:30 AM
914forme   Like everything with this car one step forward 2...   Mar 24 2018, 05:54 PM
76-914   And I thought I was the only one that had days lik...   Jan 18 2018, 10:44 AM
fishgeckos   Well I am pretty darn excited to start this proje...   Jan 18 2018, 10:59 AM
NoEcm   From a value standpoint it's not worth restor...   Jan 18 2018, 01:24 PM
Amenson   Progress makes perfect. Keep it up!   Mar 24 2018, 06:14 PM
tygaboy   Yea! He's back! :DRUNK: We missed y...   Mar 24 2018, 06:33 PM
914forme   Thank you both, feels good to get some stuff done ...   Mar 26 2018, 07:11 PM
Amenson   Is it going to be together in time to caravan down...   Mar 26 2018, 08:04 PM
914forme   Is it going to be together in time to caravan dow...   Mar 27 2018, 08:28 AM
Amenson   Is it going to be together in time to caravan do...   Mar 27 2018, 06:41 PM
76-914   Good to see you've the time to work on your pr...   Mar 26 2018, 08:51 PM
mepstein   I see the guys get out the grinder all the time to...   Mar 27 2018, 10:20 AM
Dion   Nice to see ya back Stephen. My lofty goal as well...   Mar 27 2018, 11:36 AM
mepstein   Nice to see ya back Stephen. My lofty goal as wel...   Mar 27 2018, 02:18 PM
914forme   Mark, only people with deep pockets get to build a...   Mar 27 2018, 02:15 PM
914forme   Scott that is always a choice, let's see if we...   Mar 28 2018, 07:09 AM
914forme   A bit more progress: Worked on getting the old ro...   Mar 31 2018, 07:32 AM
Lucky9146   Looking really good, love the detail :first: :wh...   Mar 31 2018, 07:46 AM
914forme   I made two steps forward and the two steps back to...   Mar 31 2018, 06:39 PM
914forme   Sunday: Got some time over Easter after all the fe...   Apr 3 2018, 08:00 AM
Amenson   Great progress :chow: Those front calipers are m...   Apr 3 2018, 08:10 AM
914forme   New Tool Tuesday :Qarl: Okay so if you can't...   Apr 10 2018, 01:20 PM
tom.esh   A converter for three phase may be worth looking i...   Apr 10 2018, 04:32 PM
raynekat   Your Alfa brakes look great. Lots of work, frustra...   Apr 10 2018, 04:51 PM
914forme   Active Day working on many projects from Dad's...   Apr 14 2018, 07:36 PM
76-914   I've been thinking about buying a portable ban...   Apr 15 2018, 09:28 AM
914forme   I've been thinking about buying a portable ba...   Apr 15 2018, 11:28 AM
914forme   Got the rear suspension off the passenger side. U...   Apr 23 2018, 06:50 AM
914forme   Let the parts gathering continue. Some times a bo...   Jul 2 2018, 02:57 PM
tygaboy   :wub: :worship: :woohoo:   Jul 2 2018, 03:31 PM
Travis Neff   Can I ask where you sourced your rear shock top mo...   Jul 2 2018, 04:11 PM
914forme   Can I ask where you sourced your rear shock top m...   Jul 2 2018, 06:26 PM
914forme   I have been doing a lot of gauge building for a fe...   Jul 15 2018, 09:17 AM
914forme   The Rotabroach was the size of the swayer reinforc...   Jul 15 2018, 07:36 PM
ctc911ctc   Since you mentioned Derby and it is Derby week I t...   Jul 16 2018, 09:46 PM
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