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| MikeInMunich |
 Aug 31 2017, 02:16 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 19-November 13 From: Munich, Germany Member No.: 16,674 Region Association: None  |
Hey Guys! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif)
I can't figure out what happened in this crash, which you may or may not have seen on You Tube. You can easily find it by searching "914 Accident". Here is the URL: https://youtu.be/BHYYlTZIZQ4 I estimate that in the video the guy covers about 125m in 3 seconds (while sliding), which is 2500 per minute...150 km/hr or 91 mph. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) So he's going into a curve which isn't sharp at just under 100 MPH with nearly optimum tires and suspension, and he loses it. I can't speak from experience at all here. I've never been in a curve at that speed, athough I can say that my car, with 195-50 Goodrich G-Force Sport Comps (HIGHLY recommend, by the way, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)) front AND rear sway bars and Bilstine performance struts, can easily handle much sharper turns (exit ramps) at about 60 MPH with no problem. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) I'm interested in hearing opinions of what happened here and why he seems to have not counter steered at all to regain control. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Looking forward to your comments, opinions and insights! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Thanks! By the way, anybody heading over to Munich for the Oktoberfest? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) M.i.M. |
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| Cracker |
Aug 31 2017, 04:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States 
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The photog is a convenient scapegoat but in reality he screwed himself regardless. That car should NOT have been allowed to race with that shit-box cage. Luckily for him, he crashed very early in the run...
PS: I did not see the link but I believe it is the fool who kicked the teener. If so, he is an idiot driving above his limits as Rob stated. BTW: He lifted and paid the price... T |
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| MikeInMunich |
Aug 31 2017, 05:43 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 19-November 13 From: Munich, Germany Member No.: 16,674 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Cracker @ Aug 31 2017, 02:22 PM)  The photog is a convenient scapegoat but in reality he screwed himself regardless. That car should NOT have been allowed to race with that shit-box cage. Luckily for him, he crashed very early in the run... PS: I did not see the link but I believe it is the fool who kicked the teener. If so, he is an idiot driving above his limits as Rob stated. BTW: He lifted and paid the price... T I don't see how it's evident that the cage was significantly inferior. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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| porschetub |
Sep 1 2017, 12:43 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,756 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(MikeInMunich @ Sep 1 2017, 11:43 AM) QUOTE(Cracker @ Aug 31 2017, 02:22 PM) The photog is a convenient scapegoat but in reality he screwed himself regardless. That car should NOT have been allowed to race with that shit-box cage. Luckily for him, he crashed very early in the run... PS: I did not see the link but I believe it is the fool who kicked the teener. If so, he is an idiot driving above his limits as Rob stated. BTW: He lifted and paid the price... T I don't see how it's evident that the cage was significantly inferior. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) You didn't say if you raced or had racecar experience or building them,.....answer soon. |
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MikeInMunich Experienced Competetion Drivers... Aug 31 2017, 02:16 PM
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Keep your eye on the guy in blue checkered shirt ... Sep 1 2017, 06:25 AM
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H... Aug 31 2017, 05:29 PM raynekat I agree with all those that said he had already lo... Aug 31 2017, 05:43 PM MikeInMunich
I agree with all those that said he had already l... Sep 1 2017, 01:48 AM falcor75
I agree with all those that said he had already ... Sep 1 2017, 02:20 AM burton73 That was a few years ago. Look that boy is lucky t... Aug 31 2017, 07:36 PM Elliot Cannon I'm not expert like many others here. The on... Aug 31 2017, 07:45 PM Cracker Same boulders...
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Holy crap! Ma... Sep 1 2017, 01:52 AM horizontally-opposed
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Maybe it's t... Sep 1 2017, 02:35 AM whitetwinturbo If you play in slo-mo:
1] at 2 second mark you c... Aug 31 2017, 09:30 PM Edward Blume
If you play in slo-mo:
1] at 2 second mark you ... Aug 31 2017, 11:01 PM horizontally-opposed To the OP's question: I think it's too har... Sep 1 2017, 02:46 AM MikeInMunich Ouch! Thanks. Sep 1 2017, 03:28 AM Calwaterbear It's pretty hard/ expensive to get significant... Sep 1 2017, 04:56 AM carr914
Fractional error. He was at 11/10's and had o... Sep 1 2017, 06:06 AM ConeDodger
Fractional error. He was at 11/10's and had ... Sep 2 2017, 10:34 AM DM_2000
As for the cage? Dude hit a rock at XX MPH and g... Sep 2 2017, 07:17 PM jmitro the cage in that photo may look questionable, but ... Sep 2 2017, 05:31 AM Cracker Not that we are seeing this differently but that i... Sep 2 2017, 07:07 AM carr914
Keep your eye on the guy in blue checkered shirt ... Sep 2 2017, 06:10 AM jmitro yea for sure, definitely want the cage as safe as ... Sep 2 2017, 10:25 AM Cracker Maybe Brant could help clarify but I have never se... Sep 2 2017, 10:31 AM jmitro
Maybe Brant could help clarify but I have never s... Sep 2 2017, 10:40 AM jmitro watching the video closely, one can see the rear e... Sep 2 2017, 10:28 AM horizontally-opposed
watching the video closely, one can see the rear ... Sep 2 2017, 12:26 PM ConeDodger
watching the video closely, one can see the rear... Sep 3 2017, 02:03 PM horizontally-opposed
Pete, that corner is literally a few hundred yar... Sep 3 2017, 04:35 PM ablesnead The cage worked....he walked...I can't imagine... Sep 2 2017, 10:11 PM DM_2000 The cage did nothing to protect the drivers side p... Sep 3 2017, 08:25 AM ablesnead have to disagree on that one ...cars have to fit c... Sep 3 2017, 12:15 PM Dave_Darling It still looks like the crash is inevitable as the... Sep 3 2017, 04:19 PM Maltese Falcon Kicking your racecar especially a 914 is Verboten ... Sep 3 2017, 04:31 PM Maltese Falcon My neighbor (Mann) runs this spec built Lister (Be... Sep 3 2017, 06:51 PM MikeInMunich Check THIS out! :shades2:
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