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Experienced Competetion Drivers..., What did this guy do wrong? |
MikeInMunich |
Aug 31 2017, 02:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 19-November 13 From: Munich, Germany Member No.: 16,674 Region Association: None |
Hey Guys! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif)
I can't figure out what happened in this crash, which you may or may not have seen on You Tube. You can easily find it by searching "914 Accident". Here is the URL: https://youtu.be/BHYYlTZIZQ4 I estimate that in the video the guy covers about 125m in 3 seconds (while sliding), which is 2500 per minute...150 km/hr or 91 mph. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) So he's going into a curve which isn't sharp at just under 100 MPH with nearly optimum tires and suspension, and he loses it. I can't speak from experience at all here. I've never been in a curve at that speed, athough I can say that my car, with 195-50 Goodrich G-Force Sport Comps (HIGHLY recommend, by the way, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)) front AND rear sway bars and Bilstine performance struts, can easily handle much sharper turns (exit ramps) at about 60 MPH with no problem. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) I'm interested in hearing opinions of what happened here and why he seems to have not counter steered at all to regain control. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Looking forward to your comments, opinions and insights! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Thanks! By the way, anybody heading over to Munich for the Oktoberfest? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) M.i.M. |
raynekat |
Aug 31 2017, 05:43 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,167 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I agree with all those that said he had already lost control before getting to the guy with the camera and was 11/10's.
He just didn't get the opposite steering going quick enough. He had plenty of room to the outside of the turn as he only drifted/skidded to the middle lane markers. If you've ever seen that Fascination video of the yellow Ruf on the Nurburgring, you'll see that in the right hands this type of slide is easily controlled/corrected for. All it takes is experience. A lot of the Pikes Peak hillclimb drivers are not so high on experience. |
MikeInMunich |
Sep 1 2017, 01:48 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 19-November 13 From: Munich, Germany Member No.: 16,674 Region Association: None |
I agree with all those that said he had already lost control before getting to the guy with the camera and was 11/10's. He just didn't get the opposite steering going quick enough. He had plenty of room to the outside of the turn as he only drifted/skidded to the middle lane markers. If you've ever seen that Fascination video of the yellow Ruf on the Nurburgring, you'll see that in the right hands this type of slide is easily controlled/corrected for. All it takes is experience. A lot of the Pikes Peak hillclimb drivers are not so high on experience. This is one of the answers I was looking for. Thanks. I will look for that video mentioned. Now I have another question. I can't find this expression anywhere...11/10s and I don't get it. I did however, while looking for it, find this, which has a number of interesting and funny quotes about racing. http://justacarguy.blogspot.de/2010/08/bes...-about-car.html |
falcor75 |
Sep 1 2017, 02:20 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,579 Joined: 22-November 12 From: Sweden Member No.: 15,176 Region Association: Scandinavia |
I agree with all those that said he had already lost control before getting to the guy with the camera and was 11/10's. He just didn't get the opposite steering going quick enough. He had plenty of room to the outside of the turn as he only drifted/skidded to the middle lane markers. If you've ever seen that Fascination video of the yellow Ruf on the Nurburgring, you'll see that in the right hands this type of slide is easily controlled/corrected for. All it takes is experience. A lot of the Pikes Peak hillclimb drivers are not so high on experience. This is one of the answers I was looking for. Thanks. I will look for that video mentioned. Now I have another question. I can't find this expression anywhere...11/10s and I don't get it. I did however, while looking for it, find this, which has a number of interesting and funny quotes about racing. http://justacarguy.blogspot.de/2010/08/bes...-about-car.html 10/10s you are driving flat out with zero margin for errors. 11/10s either you need to be very skilled and experienced or damn lucky |
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