Experienced Competetion Drivers..., What did this guy do wrong? |
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Experienced Competetion Drivers..., What did this guy do wrong? |
MikeInMunich |
Aug 31 2017, 02:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 19-November 13 From: Munich, Germany Member No.: 16,674 Region Association: None |
Hey Guys! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif)
I can't figure out what happened in this crash, which you may or may not have seen on You Tube. You can easily find it by searching "914 Accident". Here is the URL: https://youtu.be/BHYYlTZIZQ4 I estimate that in the video the guy covers about 125m in 3 seconds (while sliding), which is 2500 per minute...150 km/hr or 91 mph. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) So he's going into a curve which isn't sharp at just under 100 MPH with nearly optimum tires and suspension, and he loses it. I can't speak from experience at all here. I've never been in a curve at that speed, athough I can say that my car, with 195-50 Goodrich G-Force Sport Comps (HIGHLY recommend, by the way, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)) front AND rear sway bars and Bilstine performance struts, can easily handle much sharper turns (exit ramps) at about 60 MPH with no problem. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) I'm interested in hearing opinions of what happened here and why he seems to have not counter steered at all to regain control. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Looking forward to your comments, opinions and insights! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Thanks! By the way, anybody heading over to Munich for the Oktoberfest? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) M.i.M. |
DM_2000 |
Sep 3 2017, 08:25 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 217 Joined: 16-August 17 From: PA Member No.: 21,351 Region Association: None |
The cage did nothing to protect the drivers side passenger compartment because the impact was not on that side. If there was someone on the passenger side, would they have walked away?
There are some unknowns, but based on the pics, it looks like they took "roll cage" literally and neglected side / frontal impact protection. On the passenger side, if the shoulder belts were attached to the cage, the belts would have crushed the passenger against the seat as the cage moved rearward relative to the stock floor. The lap belts were likely attached to stock locations, if the right rocker moved rearward relative to the floor the lap belt would have tightened as well When caging a car for something like this, it is critical for the passenger compartment to be a tube chassis built inside a stock bodied car. This includes belt and seat mountings being part of the cage not on the stock floor. As for attaching to suspension points in a unit body car, this is a stronger part of the car than a floor or rocker. |
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