Emission free 914, Electric 914 Options

[914-300Hemi]

Found this article about a electric 914 taking on the snake in LA.
http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20130903-po...e-914-energised

[stugray]

"Crude oil originates from ancient fossilized organic materials,

Wikipedia is wrong.

Tell me then where did all the hydrocarbons (oceans of methane & ethane) come from on Titan (moon of Saturn)?

I suppose from all of the dinosaurs that used to roam Titan?
Organic compounds can be found interstellar nebulae - Dinosaurs?

Look at it another way. Which scenario is more likely:

1 - Life spontaneously generates out of constituent elements forming organic chemistry, THEN decomposes to form "Fossil Fuels"
OR
2 - "Fossil fuels" exist for a LONG time before life spontaneously generates out of a rich broth of complex organic chemicals

I am betting on #2 (and the evidence supports it)

[r3dplanet]

I think you might be want to double check your ideas.

There are certainly hydrocarbons and organic carbon compounds spread throughout the universe. The Horse Head nebula, Jupiter, Saturn, Titan, etc. But that doesn't mean that they were all created by living creatures like dinosaurs. It just happens that hydrocarbons are somewhat messy and relatively easy to produce if conditions are correct. If you think if nebulae as huge chemical factories (they are), then it follows suit. Hydrocarbons are just random chains of hydrogen and carbon and don't even have to have a uniform structure. All that says is that they can be naturally occurring if the right conditions are met. On Earth, the petroleum is made from hydrocarbons made of compressed plant and animal life. Not just dinosaurs, but hundreds of millions of years of decayed plants, algae, insects, forests, microscopic life, ocean life, fish, plankton, cephalopods, trilobites, etc. It also just so happens that the period of time of most petroleum generation goes hand in hand with the decay timing of the Cambrian explosion. Since life on Earth began shortly after its forming, there's obviously great propensity for hydrocarbons to produce naturally here. The Earth never had oceans of methane like on Titan. So all it goes to show is that hydrocarbons are produced all over the damn place with a variety of different beginnings. Other heavy elements like gold or uranium are certainly not geologically produced, but rather in the fusion crucibles of the stars. But simple molecule chains like hydrocarbons don't need interstellar fusion to create them.

Just out of curiosity, where is it that you think Earth's petroleum came from?

"Crude oil originates from ancient fossilized organic materials,

Wikipedia is wrong.

Tell me then where did all the hydrocarbons (oceans of methane & ethane) come from on Titan (moon of Saturn)?

I suppose from all of the dinosaurs that used to roam Titan?
Organic compounds can be found interstellar nebulae - Dinosaurs?

Look at it another way. Which scenario is more likely:

1 - Life spontaneously generates out of constituent elements forming organic chemistry, THEN decomposes to form "Fossil Fuels"
OR
2 - "Fossil fuels" exist for a LONG time before life spontaneously generates out of a rich broth of complex organic chemicals

I am betting on #2 (and the evidence supports it)

[stugray]

I think you might be want to double check your ideas.

There are certainly hydrocarbons and organic carbon compounds spread throughout the universe. The Horse Head nebula, Jupiter, Saturn, Titan, etc. But that doesn't mean that they were all created by living creatures like dinosaurs. It just happens that hydrocarbons are somewhat messy and relatively easy to produce if conditions are correct. If you think if nebulae as huge chemical factories (they are), then it follows suit. Hydrocarbons are just random chains of hydrogen and carbon and don't even have to have a uniform structure. All that says is that they can be naturally occurring if the right conditions are met. On Earth, the petroleum is made from hydrocarbons made of compressed plant and animal life. Not just dinosaurs, but hundreds of millions of years of decayed plants, algae, insects, forests, microscopic life, ocean life, fish, plankton, cephalopods, trilobites, etc. It also just so happens that the period of time of most petroleum generation goes hand in hand with the decay timing of the Cambrian explosion. Since life on Earth began shortly after its forming, there's obviously great propensity for hydrocarbons to produce naturally here. The Earth never had oceans of methane like on Titan. So all it goes to show is that hydrocarbons are produced all over the damn place with a variety of different beginnings. Other heavy elements like gold or uranium are certainly not geologically produced, but rather in the fusion crucibles of the stars. But simple molecule chains like hydrocarbons don't need interstellar fusion to create them.

Just out of curiosity, where is it that you think Earth's petroleum came from?

"Crude oil originates from ancient fossilized organic materials,

Wikipedia is wrong.

Tell me then where did all the hydrocarbons (oceans of methane & ethane) come from on Titan (moon of Saturn)?

I suppose from all of the dinosaurs that used to roam Titan?
Organic compounds can be found interstellar nebulae - Dinosaurs?

Look at it another way. Which scenario is more likely:

1 - Life spontaneously generates out of constituent elements forming organic chemistry, THEN decomposes to form "Fossil Fuels"
OR
2 - "Fossil fuels" exist for a LONG time before life spontaneously generates out of a rich broth of complex organic chemicals

I am betting on #2 (and the evidence supports it)

r3dplanet - I'll just leave this here:

http://www.reach-unlimited.com/p/135244424...gical-in-nature