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> Help me make a decision here - Combo gage or stock
Mikey914
post Jan 30 2018, 02:59 AM
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I acquired a pretty stock 1.7 that had been retrofitted with a 911 combo gauge. It looks well done. I did procure a correct gauge to replace it but now I'm thinking leave it.

What would you do?

I like the idea or originality too.
Pics to follow.
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post Jan 30 2018, 08:09 AM
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Leave it, you can never have too much information. It took some extra thought and skill to get the wring done.
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post Jan 30 2018, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE(914Sixer @ Jan 30 2018, 09:09 AM) *

Leave it, you can never have too much information. It took some extra thought and skill to get the wring done.

^^^...and I'm the opposite. I think you can have too much information to the point it's distracting. I don't care what the value is unless it's out of spec, so I love me some basic gauges and idiot lights. I removed the center console and its gauges and use the basic combo with oil temp and lights.
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post Feb 5 2018, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE(GregAmy @ Jan 30 2018, 06:13 AM) *

^^^...and I'm the opposite. I think you can have too much information to the point it's distracting. I don't care what the value is unless it's out of spec, so I love me some basic gauges and idiot lights. I removed the center console and its gauges and use the basic combo with oil temp and lights.


This is probably true.

For some reason my car came with the gauges you'd expect, plus oil temp, plus cylinder #3 head temp, plus oil pressure, plus fuel pressure, plus manifold vacuum, plus voltage meter, plus ammeter, plus a wind up clock with a timer built in. In a modern car I guess a computer would watch all things things and alert me to any problems but this is my toy and it's fun pretending I'm piloting a WWII bomber. I guess this puts me in the poseur category. If I fire up the 123\Tune app I can also see spark advance and distributor temperature. I don't know why the 123 distributor has a temperature sensor since they didn't provide a way to incorporate it into spark advance (yet).

The oil pressure gauge may actually be practical, as it reminds me not to rev the new engine when it's cold. The oil temp gauge is helping me realize how long it's taking to get to operating temperature -- why I'm getting milky white condensation inside the oil filler lid. For cylinder head temperature, I might be better off with a klaxon. I do wish the brake warning light was properly hooked up to my parking brake.

TANGENT:
In 1985 I had a 1975 915 2.0 with the stupid progressive Weber set up and a 009. In the Arizona heat, the oil pressure light flickered at idle -- no gauge in that car. I was a dumb kid and there was no 914World. The mechanic said my bearings must be worn out, needed a rebuild... very expensive for a kid starting his career. During the rebuild, they told me there was a problem with my 2.0 heads, offered replacement heads (which weren't the Porsche ones of course). When the engine was back in the car, the oil pressure light flickered just as it had before.
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post Feb 5 2018, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(98101 @ Feb 4 2018, 11:48 PM) *

QUOTE(GregAmy @ Jan 30 2018, 06:13 AM) *

^^^...and I'm the opposite. I think you can have too much information to the point it's distracting. I don't care what the value is unless it's out of spec, so I love me some basic gauges and idiot lights. I removed the center console and its gauges and use the basic combo with oil temp and lights.


This is probably true.

For some reason my car came with the gauges you'd expect, plus oil temp, plus cylinder #3 head temp, plus oil pressure, plus fuel pressure, plus manifold vacuum, plus voltage meter, plus ammeter, plus a wind up clock with a timer built in. In a modern car I guess a computer would watch all things things and alert me to any problems but this is my toy and it's fun pretending I'm piloting a WWII bomber. I guess this puts me in the poseur category. If I fire up the 123\Tune app I can also see spark advance and distributor temperature. I don't know why the 123 distributor has a temperature sensor since they didn't provide a way to incorporate it into spark advance (yet).

The oil pressure gauge may actually be practical, as it reminds me not to rev the new engine when it's cold. The oil temp gauge is helping me realize how long it's taking to get to operating temperature -- why I'm getting milky white condensation inside the oil filler lid. For cylinder head temperature, I might be better off with a klaxon. I do wish the brake warning light was properly hooked up to my parking brake.

TANGENT:
In 1985 I had a 1975 915 2.0 with the stupid progressive Weber set up and a 009. In the Arizona heat, the oil pressure light flickered at idle -- no gauge in that car. I was a dumb kid and there was no 914World. The mechanic said my bearings must be worn out, needed a rebuild... very expensive for a kid starting his career. During the rebuild, they told me there was a problem with my 2.0 heads, offered replacement heads (which weren't the Porsche ones of course). When the engine was back in the car, the oil pressure light flickered just as it had before.
I can relate and agree, shady shops do exist and they suck.
When I was young I scored a 914 2.0 engine from the wrecking yard that I planned on rebuilding to replace my old 1.7. I took the engine to a vw rebuild shop 'one stop machine' and if I recall correctly, they were in paramount CA. They took the 2.0 engine in and said I needed new pistons and cam. I ordered the parts through them. I stopped by every week after work to see if the parts had arrived. The bald guy at the shop kept telling me the parts had not arrived, every week. After my patience had run out I went by to pick up my motor. That same guy pretended he didn't know what I was talking about. He then pointed to his sign saying 'they were not responsible for any parts left over 30 days'. When it was 'them' who were delaying the process. He then tried to give me some old bus parts (half a case and one cracked head). I left with nothing. As a youngster this was a rough lesson. This crook planned on stealing my engine from the get go.

Sorry this post has nothing to do with the thread topic. So I will add, I like stock and -6 stock combo gauges with pressure or temp on top (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Mikey914   Help me make a decision here - Combo gage or stock   Jan 30 2018, 02:59 AM
sithot   I acquired a pretty stock 1.7 that had been retro...   Jan 30 2018, 04:33 AM
914Sixer   Leave it, you can never have too much information....   Jan 30 2018, 08:09 AM
GregAmy   Leave it, you can never have too much information...   Jan 30 2018, 08:13 AM
sithot   [quote name='914Sixer' post='2573207' date='Jan 3...   Jan 30 2018, 08:27 AM
gothspeed   [quote name='914Sixer' post='2573207' date='Jan 3...   Jan 30 2018, 12:57 PM
98101   ^^^...and I'm the opposite. I think you [b][i...   Feb 5 2018, 01:48 AM
gothspeed   [quote name='GregAmy' post='2573208' date='Jan 30...   Feb 5 2018, 09:10 AM
BENBRO02   IMO an oil pressure guage is almost worthless (the...   Jan 30 2018, 08:36 AM
Cairo94507   I like more information than less. I would leave ...   Jan 30 2018, 09:10 AM
Cairo94507   dbl post- sorry   Jan 30 2018, 09:10 AM
RickS   I am in the “information is power” camp, espec...   Jan 30 2018, 10:12 AM
GregAmy   I don't mean to be combative in any way, but t...   Jan 30 2018, 10:38 AM
tomeric914   The idiot light tells you something is wrong, the ...   Jan 30 2018, 11:40 AM
gandalf_025   Mark, if it is the 4 way gauge, I’d be intereste...   Jan 30 2018, 11:21 AM
Steve   I like mine, it looks more stock than others. Min...   Jan 30 2018, 12:00 PM
gothspeed   I like mine, it looks more stock than others. Mi...   Jan 31 2018, 05:25 AM
Steve   I like mine, it looks more stock than others. M...   Feb 1 2018, 07:37 PM
timothy_nd28   At night, the stock combo gauge only has a small w...   Jan 30 2018, 12:45 PM
jor   Setting aside the informational value of the gauge...   Jan 30 2018, 12:52 PM
Chris914n6   I find a pressure gauge distracting. I'm alway...   Jan 30 2018, 01:26 PM
Mikey914   My set up   Jan 30 2018, 01:56 PM
gothspeed   My set up Looks very 911 ... :popcorn:   Jan 30 2018, 03:39 PM
sithot   My set up Looks very 911 ... :popcorn: Even...   Jan 30 2018, 06:49 PM
bbrock   My set up It's just personal opinion, but I...   Jan 30 2018, 07:03 PM
r_towle   combo gauge is cool.   Jan 30 2018, 07:09 PM
pete000   I like the 911 combo and the remote mounted fuel g...   Jan 30 2018, 11:43 PM
type47fan   I like the 911 combo and the remote mounted fuel ...   Feb 1 2018, 03:48 PM
Mikey914   It kind of grows on ya. I do have a replacement, b...   Jan 31 2018, 01:27 AM
deemsriddle   I am at the point I my rebuild that it is gage tim...   Jan 31 2018, 07:33 AM
Cairo94507   Check with Palo Alto Speedometer, Palo Alto, Calif...   Jan 31 2018, 10:03 AM
mepstein   Too much?   Jan 31 2018, 10:04 AM
gothspeed   Too much? one needs a road map to find one's...   Jan 31 2018, 02:31 PM
John   The reason I never liked the 911 combo gauge only ...   Jan 31 2018, 04:59 PM
Mikey914   I do like Johns version. But given the condition o...   Feb 1 2018, 07:58 PM
Racer   Stock. Combos are for racers or posers :poke:   Feb 1 2018, 08:03 PM
r_towle   Stock. Combos are for racers or posers :poke: N...   Feb 1 2018, 08:23 PM
RickS   Had to update my signature to reflect my new estee...   Feb 1 2018, 10:17 PM
gothspeed   I would like to find a custom 'combo' gaug...   Feb 1 2018, 10:39 PM
sithot   Here is a friend's combo gauge in his lightly ...   Feb 4 2018, 10:15 AM
campbellcj   I have a 4-way combo gauge and can attest to the s...   Feb 5 2018, 08:46 AM


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