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> Anybody Have This 22mm Weltmeister Front Sway Bar?, Don't understand what keeps it centered
Lucky9146
post Apr 20 2018, 09:52 PM
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This sway bar here

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My driver side looks like this

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And my passenger side looks like this

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Seems to be some room on either side of the bushing cup totaling abut 1.75 in. for the bar to wander off to one side as mine did. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

You can weigh in here on go to my thread page 31 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=261197

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post Apr 21 2018, 11:20 AM
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I have dealt with this in a few ways.

First push the bushing all the way in to the bush cup mounted to the inner fended, they should only stick a short distance.
Then loosen the arms on the bar and work them in as far as they will go.
The arms clamp on the square end of the bar and can move around if loose or may not have been install pushed on to the bar as far as possible.

Now you will know how much gap you have to deal with.
I have had some where there was very little gap and the bar could only move back and forth a few mm.

If you have enough gap your bar will move side to side much, there are different ways to fill the gap.

However you deal with the gap you want to end up with the arms equally spaced on each side of the car in order to keep the geometry of the swaybar arms, drop links and A-arms the same.

The hose clamp the some kits come with is functional but I don't like it.
Clamp on collars work much better but you then might have metal rubbing against metal depending on where you install them.
I have always put them on the outside, between the swaybar arm and the bushing. It means you don't have to remove the fuel tank if you want to take the bar out or if a collar worked loose and needs to be tightened.

I have had spacers made of plastic bushing material (turcite), basically a pair of large plastic washers that fit over the bar and go between the arm and the bushing end or the bushing cup.

I have had wider bushing made up that have a step so the push into the bushing cup and stop against the outer edge and have a larger surface for the swaybar arm to rub against.

I have also (in a pinch) taken a PVC pipe fitting that fit over the bar and cut it into spacers to fit between the sway bar arm and the bushing to fill the gap.
Note: I did not do this on a customers car, not a real professional solution but it worked.

You just want the bar centered and set up with very little play to move side to side.

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QUOTE(jcd914 @ Apr 21 2018, 10:20 AM) *

I have dealt with this in a few ways.

First push the bushing all the way in to the bush cup mounted to the inner fended, they should only stick a short distance.
Then loosen the arms on the bar and work them in as far as they will go.
The arms clamp on the square end of the bar and can move around if loose or may not have been install pushed on to the bar as far as possible.

Now you will know how much gap you have to deal with.
I have had some where there was very little gap and the bar could only move back and forth a few mm.

If you have enough gap your bar will move side to side much, there are different ways to fill the gap.

However you deal with the gap you want to end up with the arms equally spaced on each side of the car in order to keep the geometry of the swaybar arms, drop links and A-arms the same.

The hose clamp the some kits come with is functional but I don't like it.
Clamp on collars work much better but you then might have metal rubbing against metal depending on where you install them.
I have always put them on the outside, between the swaybar arm and the bushing. It means you don't have to remove the fuel tank if you want to take the bar out or if a collar worked loose and needs to be tightened.

I have had spacers made of plastic bushing material (turcite), basically a pair of large plastic washers that fit over the bar and go between the arm and the bushing end or the bushing cup.

I have had wider bushing made up that have a step so the push into the bushing cup and stop against the outer edge and have a larger surface for the swaybar arm to rub against.

I have also (in a pinch) taken a PVC pipe fitting that fit over the bar and cut it into spacers to fit between the sway bar arm and the bushing to fill the gap.
Note: I did not do this on a customers car, not a real professional solution but it worked.

You just want the bar centered and set up with very little play to move side to side.

Jim



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Thanks this was very helpful and I appreciate the picture too. This is the kind of stuff I was was looking for! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Lucky9146   Anybody Have This 22mm Weltmeister Front Sway Bar?   Apr 20 2018, 09:52 PM
pete000   I have that same bar but haven't had any issue...   Apr 20 2018, 10:28 PM
Lucky9146   I have that same bar but haven't had any issu...   Apr 20 2018, 11:51 PM
Steve   I used to have that Weltmeister bar. The bushing ...   Apr 20 2018, 10:33 PM
Lucky9146   I used to have that Weltmeister bar. The bushing...   Apr 20 2018, 11:58 PM
defianty   I have the same bar Jim. Although I've never r...   Apr 21 2018, 12:48 AM
Lucky9146   I have the same bar Jim. Although I've never ...   Apr 21 2018, 09:50 AM
Luke M   I have a brand new welt bar that I haven't ins...   Apr 21 2018, 07:59 AM
jcd914   I have dealt with this in a few ways. First push ...   Apr 21 2018, 11:20 AM
Lucky9146   I have dealt with this in a few ways. First push...   Apr 21 2018, 02:51 PM
jcd914   Here is an example of a 19mm bar and the extra roo...   Apr 21 2018, 11:24 AM
wysri9   I took a good look at mine and although this is on...   Apr 23 2018, 03:30 PM
Lucky9146   I took a good look at mine and although this is o...   Apr 23 2018, 03:55 PM
JamesM   I had been told the car had seen 145 mph clocked...   Jul 14 2020, 04:18 PM
Lucky9146   Finally came to the realization that the drop link...   Apr 25 2018, 10:53 AM
jcd914   Finally came to the realization that the drop lin...   Apr 25 2018, 05:30 PM
Lucky9146   Finally came to the realization that the drop li...   Apr 25 2018, 08:48 PM
Lucky9146   Finally came to the realization that the drop li...   Apr 26 2018, 11:10 PM
wysri9   Glad the photos helped - sorry about the wonky all...   Apr 25 2018, 01:03 PM
914forme   :agree: Only issue I would see is if it is so sh...   Apr 25 2018, 06:36 PM
914Subaru   Lots of good information in this post. I finally ...   Jul 13 2020, 08:57 PM
Steve   Lots of good information in this post. I finally...   Jul 14 2020, 04:33 PM
jcd914   The U-bolts were to mount the bushing cup/mount fo...   Jul 14 2020, 01:56 AM
914Subaru   The U-bolts sure sounds like a bad idea. I used t...   Jul 19 2020, 09:49 PM
wndsrfr   The U-bolts sure sounds like a bad idea. I used ...   Jul 20 2020, 07:19 AM
914Subaru   Brakes are; 944 turbo calipers (Brembo) Custom hat...   Jul 20 2020, 07:35 AM
914Toy   22m is a lot of anti-role bar for most of our 914...   Jul 20 2020, 08:19 AM
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