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> Rear fender oil cooler mount details, How I did it
IronHillRestorations
post Sep 25 2018, 05:01 PM
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After I made a post about my alternate location for an auxiliary oil cooler, I thought more details would be helpful.
First let me say that this was a piece of cake for the current project, as the right rear quarter panel was removed for rust repair and chassis stiffening. Due to the difficulty in properly locating the forward mounting holes, I don’t know how feasible this is for a car with the engine installed. When I put a (slightly smaller) cooler in this same area 25 years ago, I made no notes or kept any of the measurements, I just made it work, but at that time it was done with the engine out of the car.
After trial and error fitting of a cardboard mockup, I picked a Mocal 34 row, 235 matrix cooler, which measures 260mm by 280mm, or roughly 10 5/16” x 11 1/8” which doesn’t include the -12AN fittings. This is what I think to be the largest cooler you could get in that area ahead of the right rear wheel. This cooler has a capacity of .75 quarts, which is .20 of a quart more than the kit BAT offers to upgrade a 911 front oil cooler. This is a case where bigger is definitely better.
Since airflow in the rear quarter panels isn’t as good as the front fender , I added a 7” Spal puller fan that will be mounted directly to the oil cooler with a plastic mounting tie kit, which are very sturdy round zip tie fasteners that make it easy. The fan will be wired with a relay to a switch on the dash or an automatic inline switch (to be determined later). On my old install I tried to make the fan automatically switched, but it ran too much and the fan died. A testament to this set up is that I never knew the fan died, and oil temps never got over 220* even in the hot Tennessee summers. Since this is going to be a widebody hot-rod with flared rockers, I’m toying with the idea of incorporating a scoop in the rocker flare, but that too is undetermined.
Here’s a hardware list, that doesn’t include any oil lines, thermostat, or relay wiring for the fan.
1 Mocal A34A12 34 row -12AN 235 oil cooler
2 Mocal/Setrab ABKT-235 oil cooler bracket for 235mm core
1 BAT ABKT1 cooler/fan mounting tie kit
1 M8 x 1.25 x 60mm fully threaded cap screw (13mm hex)
2 M8 x 1.25 x 50mm fully threaded cap screw (13mm hex)
12 M8 washers
8 M8 x 1.25 nylon insert nuts
1 M8 x 1.25 weld nut

Even with the fender off it took more than one attempt to get it in the optimum location, which is as far forward as possible without interfering with the outer suspension console. Using the suspension console as the baseline level plane, the cooler is tilted down at the back about 5* give or take a degree.

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Just for reference

Here's what the cooler looks like mounted. It's pretty big.
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I wanted to make sure the cooler could be installed and removed with the fender on, I made sure there was no interference. I had the fender on and off several times during the test fitting process.
With the fender off it was easy to use the bracket as a reference where to mark and drill the 5/16” front mounting holes, which are 70mm apart.
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post Sep 25 2018, 05:28 PM
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So it’s all mounted nice and tidy, but how can I pass this on for future use? I used the vertical surface upper cross member on the firewall as a reference point, and butted my ruler up against the lip of the side panel. This is where you’ll measure from to make your reference marks to drill your mounting holes. Flush against the vertical edge of the firewall and the upper stop is the lip of the side panel.
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From the upper reference point measure down 176mm and forward 61mm. This is where it’s a little tricky as I wanted a repeatable method that you could use. Keep the ruler flush against the vertical side of that panel and hold it against the inner wall, and set the sliding square at 176mm, this is your down measurement for the top hole. Then I used a shorter scale (ruler) measure a perpendicular straight line from the edge of the vertical ruler 61mm toward the front of the car. I didn’t bend the scale. This is the spot for your top hole. I must confess that this was easy with the battery tray not yet installed.
Continue down that same vertical line to 345mm, and then another perpendicular line 75mm forward for the lower mounting hole. Before drilling any holes measure between your two marks and make sure you’ve got 70mm. You can enlarge the holes a bit if you have to, and in a worst case scenario, you could employ some oversize washers.
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The rear mount is very straight forward, which I’m not going to detail. The pictures tell all. You have much more access to install this mounting point.
After it’s all installed I’ll make a stone shield from some black plastic inner fender material, and make a follow up post.

This is how it measured out on this 914-6 chassis, I can’t promise that there isn’t a difference in a later style chassis, or some variance in your chassis. Double check and measure, check and measure again.

I’m not going to get into the front mounted cooler, or rear mounted cooler discussion. This is just how I decided to go. I know this might not be the best choice for a track car, and it’s not “GT correct”. My own opinion is that the trunk space a 914 provides is one of the more practical aspects these cars have to offer. I also am a fan of a full size, fully inflated spare tire. This approach preserves both.

You might get halfway through doing this and decide I’ve caused you more grief than help. Clearly, your results may vary.
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IronHillRestorations   Rear fender oil cooler mount details   Sep 25 2018, 05:01 PM
IronHillRestorations   Using masking tape I test mounted the fan to the c...   Sep 25 2018, 05:13 PM
IronHillRestorations   This shows the cooler bracket spaced 31mm out from...   Sep 25 2018, 05:18 PM
IronHillRestorations   So it’s all mounted nice and tidy, but how can I...   Sep 25 2018, 05:28 PM
mb911   Looks great.. If I ever build another project this...   Sep 25 2018, 05:35 PM
IronHillRestorations   Another shot of the rear mount Inside the fender...   Sep 25 2018, 05:46 PM
IronHillRestorations   The cooler, the brackets, the fan, and the (not sh...   Sep 25 2018, 05:56 PM
burton73   Do you think a Boxster vent would work with this? ...   Sep 25 2018, 07:39 PM
amfab   Awesome! I am planning to put my cooler there ...   Sep 25 2018, 10:07 PM
IronHillRestorations   Awesome! I am planning to put my cooler there...   Sep 26 2018, 07:23 AM
DRPHIL914   boy that seems so tight! not sure that you wil...   Sep 26 2018, 06:23 AM
tomeric914   boy that seems so tight! not sure that you wi...   Sep 26 2018, 06:48 AM
mepstein   There is probably still an oil cooler on the engin...   Sep 26 2018, 06:41 AM
burton73   Suck the fan air through the vent. The only way to...   Sep 26 2018, 01:37 PM
tomeric914   ... but I do not think that the ways guys are han...   Sep 26 2018, 02:46 PM
billh1963   I've often wondered if a scoop around the sail...   Sep 26 2018, 02:47 PM
Dave_Darling   I believe you guys are talking about the differenc...   Sep 26 2018, 02:49 PM
billh1963   Found an old thread with pics: http://www.914worl...   Sep 26 2018, 02:50 PM
IronHillRestorations   On a street car, I'd add another cooler under ...   Sep 27 2018, 06:43 AM
DRPHIL914   On a street car, I'd add another cooler under...   Sep 27 2018, 06:56 AM
r_towle   I think it’s a great idea! Look at the 550 t...   Sep 27 2018, 07:26 AM
PanelBilly   How about a scoop that pulls air from under the ca...   Sep 27 2018, 11:34 AM
amfab   Hi Perry, I was wondering if you have an update re...   Jan 31 2019, 09:54 PM
IronHillRestorations   I just finished plumbing the cooler, thermostat, a...   Feb 21 2022, 09:06 AM
IronHillRestorations   Thermostat mounted Custom return line to tank...   Feb 21 2022, 09:13 AM
IronHillRestorations   To the tank. Fan is mounted directly to the c...   Feb 21 2022, 09:23 AM
IronHillRestorations   Rubber isolators are a perfect 30mm tall. I did ...   Feb 21 2022, 09:27 AM
IronHillRestorations   I added a couple hose separators. I still have t...   Feb 21 2022, 09:34 AM
IronHillRestorations   As far as the efficacy, I have no doubt this is su...   Feb 21 2022, 09:39 AM
IronHillRestorations   Wrapped up the details. I wired a relay with a fus...   Feb 22 2022, 12:18 PM
IronHillRestorations   Brackets installed. I made the stone shield fro...   Feb 22 2022, 12:32 PM
ClayPerrine   Brackets installed. I made the stone shield fr...   Feb 22 2022, 02:29 PM
Tdskip   How does any air get to it? Clay Won't t...   Feb 22 2022, 03:52 PM
IronHillRestorations   This is getting a fully rebuilt EFI engine, which ...   Feb 22 2022, 06:30 PM
aturboman   This is a 73 911 RS cooler I installed in the rear...   Feb 23 2022, 04:35 PM
horizontally-opposed   This is a 73 911 RS cooler I installed in the rea...   Feb 23 2022, 07:18 PM
mb911   [quote name='aturboman' post='2983777' date='Feb ...   Feb 23 2022, 07:59 PM
SirAndy   What a great idea, running a 911 loop cooler in t...   Feb 23 2022, 08:04 PM
horizontally-opposed   Maybe i'm the only one confused here but how...   Feb 23 2022, 09:04 PM
horizontally-opposed   Beautiful work, Perry. Looks great! :trophy:   Feb 23 2022, 07:15 PM
Tdskip   Great discussion. If the look cooler works withou...   Feb 24 2022, 07:54 AM
mepstein   Great discussion. If the look cooler works witho...   Feb 24 2022, 10:39 AM
Tdskip   I think it depends on how much cooling you want ...   Feb 24 2022, 03:09 PM
horizontally-opposed   Great discussion. If the look cooler works witho...   Feb 24 2022, 12:31 PM
willieg   Perry Great documentation. Thank you.   Jun 6 2022, 07:40 AM
stevesc_us   Yet another option to consider. I never tracked m...   Jun 6 2022, 08:28 AM
JmuRiz   Always wondered where that car ended up. Does it ...   Jun 6 2022, 10:18 AM
stevesc_us   She is now owned by Freeman Thomas, who as you may...   Jun 6 2022, 10:44 AM
vitamin914   Although it seems we may spend more time under our...   Jun 6 2022, 12:37 PM
914werke   I like that loop cooler but at nearly $600 Im...   Jun 6 2022, 05:49 PM
colingreene   Not that anyone asked, This is what i did for my 2...   Jun 6 2022, 07:46 PM
Tdskip   Thanks for posting that @colingreene   Jun 6 2022, 10:53 PM


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