Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> Fuel pump just quit
surfdogskier
post Oct 26 2019, 11:51 AM
Post #1


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 164
Joined: 20-May 16
From: East TN
Member No.: 20,019
Region Association: None



So I had everything working well on my carb conversion with the exception of the fuel pump which constantly ran unless I pulled the ground wire per SirAndys carb conversion write up.

Now my pump will not work at all. I direct wired it to the battery to see if the pump was good and it worked. I connected a 12 volt wire to my relay board at the black/red wire #13 connection and it worked. So no issue with the wire. However something on the relay board or relay prevents it from working when the key is turned on.

I was going to wire it to the 2 other points on the relay board to get 12 volts (T4b and the #12 pin on the T12 connector). However, with the key turned on, I am not getting 12 volts to either of these. the T4b, I am getting 2 volts and the pin 12 on the T12 I am getting 4 volts.

My only other option to get 12 volt power is to connect to my coil but I have read this is not a good idea.

Looking for some guidance.


Attached image(s)
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
Rand
post Oct 28 2019, 04:09 PM
Post #2


Cross Member
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 7,409
Joined: 8-February 05
From: OR
Member No.: 3,573
Region Association: None



I understand the hack to get by. I do that too. But it is TEMPORARY. Don't just skate by on this "solution" please. If you do every fix like this, your car will be a nasty mess devaluating by the second.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
lierofox
post Oct 28 2019, 06:30 PM
Post #3


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 256
Joined: 23-June 15
From: Paso Robles, CA
Member No.: 18,880
Region Association: Southern California



QUOTE(Rand @ Oct 28 2019, 03:09 PM) *

I understand the hack to get by. I do that too. But it is TEMPORARY. Don't just skate by on this "solution" please. If you do every fix like this, your car will be a nasty mess devaluating by the second.


I'm not sure if it's too late now to swap it back to stock or not, but, I'd want to look through the relay board, personally. See where the power is getting lost. Is it getting lost at the Power Supply relay coil? Is it getting lost a the output of the power supply relay? Is it getting lost at the fuel pump relay coil? Is it getting lost at the outlet of the fuel pump relay?

You said in the very first post that there was no power on the switched 12v terminal on the T4B connector, well that 12v comes from the Power Supply relay, so either:

A: +12v key voltage isn't reaching the Power Supply relay (terminal 85)
B: The Power Supply Relay has no ground at the coil (terminal 86)
C: The Power Supply Relay has no power going to its input terminal (terminal 30)
D: The Power Supply Relay has no power coming out of its output terminal (Terminal 87)
E: The Power Supply Relay is just inoperative.

To test the board I'd use a multimeter and test for continuity:
Between Pin 8 on the T14 connector and Terminal 85 on the Power Supply Relay.
Between Pin 10 on the T14 connector and Terminal 86 on the Power Supply Relay.
Between Pin 12 on the T14 connector and Terminal 30 on the Power Supply Relay.
Between Terminal 87 on the Power Supply Relay and Terminal 85 on the Fuel Pump Relay.
Between Terminal 87 on the Power Supply Relay and Terminal 1 on the T4B connector (the top right one labeled Last Resort Unfused Private Switched +12v)

All of those points should have continuity even with the relay board fully unplugged. If all of those test good, I'd test the Power Supply Relay, you could even pull a relay from the headlight motors and swap it in place to test it that way.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
surfdogskier   Fuel pump just quit   Oct 26 2019, 11:51 AM
rhodyguy   With the key in the on position, do you have 12v a...   Oct 26 2019, 12:03 PM
surfdogskier   With the key in the on position, do you have 12v ...   Oct 26 2019, 12:31 PM
lierofox   So I had everything working well on my carb conve...   Oct 26 2019, 12:32 PM
surfdogskier   So I had everything working well on my carb conv...   Oct 26 2019, 12:33 PM
surfdogskier   I am not seeing any blown fuses under the dash or ...   Oct 26 2019, 12:44 PM
rhodyguy   the last sentence has me confused. The stand alone...   Oct 26 2019, 12:57 PM
surfdogskier   the last sentence has me confused. The stand alon...   Oct 26 2019, 01:03 PM
lierofox   [quote name='rhodyguy' post='2757415' date='Oct 2...   Oct 26 2019, 02:33 PM
surfdogskier   [quote name='rhodyguy' post='2757415' date='Oct ...   Oct 26 2019, 04:57 PM
lierofox   Thanks for this image and info. I haven't se...   Oct 26 2019, 05:18 PM
Minerva's 914   RE: Fuel pump just quit   Oct 26 2019, 01:11 PM
Superhawk996   :rotfl: Well done!   Oct 26 2019, 04:17 PM
rhodyguy   with the extra wire for power and the jumper groun...   Oct 26 2019, 01:46 PM
surfdogskier   with the extra wire for power and the jumper grou...   Oct 26 2019, 02:14 PM
porschetub   Did you check the pump and power supply relays,rea...   Oct 26 2019, 03:22 PM
rhodyguy   Are you sure the relay is good? Plug it in to a re...   Oct 26 2019, 03:26 PM
injunmort   I would suggest getting rid all jumpers, grounds a...   Oct 26 2019, 03:36 PM
surfdogskier   I swapped the relays around but there was no diffe...   Oct 26 2019, 04:00 PM
lierofox   I swapped the relays around but there was no diff...   Oct 26 2019, 04:38 PM
porschetub   I swapped the relays around but there was no dif...   Oct 26 2019, 11:40 PM
surfdogskier   She now purrs like a kitten. Thank all of you fo...   Oct 27 2019, 06:07 AM
KELTY360   She now purrs like a kitten. Thank all of you f...   Oct 27 2019, 02:34 PM
surfdogskier   She now purrs like a kitten. Thank all of you ...   Oct 27 2019, 06:42 PM
lierofox   The biggest point of caution I'd give for that...   Oct 28 2019, 01:17 PM
surfdogskier   The biggest point of caution I'd give for tha...   Oct 28 2019, 01:55 PM
914_teener   :thumbsup: :brain: :blowup:   Oct 28 2019, 01:46 PM
rhodyguy   :blink:   Oct 28 2019, 01:55 PM
Rand   I understand the hack to get by. I do that too. Bu...   Oct 28 2019, 04:09 PM
lierofox   I understand the hack to get by. I do that too. B...   Oct 28 2019, 06:30 PM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
4 User(s) are reading this topic (4 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 26th December 2024 - 05:16 PM