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0-60 for a 914/6 with 3.2? |
Tdskip |
Dec 22 2019, 01:45 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,702 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
The numbers are secondary to the driving experience of course, but just curious if anyone’s ever benchmark to their conversion against a stopwatch?
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Chi-town |
Dec 27 2019, 11:33 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 851 Joined: 31-August 18 From: Disneyland Member No.: 22,446 Region Association: Southern California |
If you're looking for the "push you back in the seat" acceleration in a 914, good luck.
The short wheelbase of the car will always lead to traction issues as there it no real "weight transfer" to the rear wheels as the weight is already there so there is no real leverage. You could go with a really sticky R compound tire and hope the drivetrain stays in one piece when they don't spin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) That feeling of acceleration is a combination of a lot of factors. Gearing Torque curve Weight Traction The 2.7 with the shorter 2.5 gearing in my beater Boxster has a good push (gearing). It is not as impressive as the Sprintex in my R53 Mini (torque vs weight). All of them lack in comparison to my friend's 91' ZR-1 (weight/torque/gearing/traction) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This is a conversation I've had with friends/customers/industry associates time and time again. You can build a car to do anything if you have enough money/time but there will always be a compromise somewhere in the build. The question I always end the conversation with is, "Do you want to spend the time/money on building a car that will do what you ask or would you rather just invest that money in a car that already does and spend the time driving it?" |
Andyrew |
Dec 27 2019, 01:34 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
If you're looking for the "push you back in the seat" acceleration in a 914, good luck. The short wheelbase of the car will always lead to traction issues as there it no real "weight transfer" to the rear wheels as the weight is already there so there is no real leverage. You could go with a really sticky R compound tire and hope the drivetrain stays in one piece when they don't spin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) That feeling of acceleration is a combination of a lot of factors. Gearing Torque curve Weight Traction The 2.7 with the shorter 2.5 gearing in my beater Boxster has a good push (gearing). It is not as impressive as the Sprintex in my R53 Mini (torque vs weight). All of them lack in comparison to my friend's 91' ZR-1 (weight/torque/gearing/traction) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This is a conversation I've had with friends/customers/industry associates time and time again. You can build a car to do anything if you have enough money/time but there will always be a compromise somewhere in the build. The question I always end the conversation with is, "Do you want to spend the time/money on building a car that will do what you ask or would you rather just invest that money in a car that already does and spend the time driving it?" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) on the traction vs back in the seat issue. For most people about 200whp in a 914 would be enough for a good back in the seat push, which is pretty attainable in most conversions. It's also low enough HP that traction shouldn't be an issue with most good sticky street tires. I found that over 250whp lead to traction loss in first. Second barely holds about 300whp. Third is jail time. That's with a decent tire of considerable size and going straight.... Around any corner and you can forget about it. Honestly that's really not that much power in today's world, your average luxury sedan is that fast or faster, and with traction, gearing and quick shifts it's difficult to even compare.... |
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