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> More Rear Mount Oil Cooler Questions, Setrab Setup
BeatNavy
post Jul 6 2020, 08:47 AM
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I'm trying to nail down why I'm having oil cooler issues. Specifically, I've blown two sandwich plate adapter seals in the same place / manner. In addition, during my test drives I wasn't necessarily thrilled with the temp drop I was seeing.

First, I'm running the Setrab oil cooler and Setrab sandwich plate adapter. Anyone else running the Setrab sandwich plate adapter without any issues? I know I'm not the ONLY one, but how many people run this as opposed to something like the Mocal setup?

Second, when I contacted Pegasus Racing to order more seals, I spoke to the tech guy who gave me some food for thought. The most interesting thing was he said the oil cooler needs to be mounted with the inlet and outlet ports facing up, otherwise the cooler won't fill up all the way and you won't get ideal (or any) cooling.

Here's my setup with it angled somewhat down for what I hoped was good airflow: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=2826235

Essentially he says the oil takes "the path of least resistance" which could largely be from the inlet port to the outlet port using few of the cooling rows. I assumed the pressure would fill the cooler, but I can see what he's saying. Any thoughts on that? If that's the case, I really need to completely redo my mounting setup and plumbing.
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post Jul 6 2020, 03:50 PM
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Thanks for the input. I spend a good part of the day undoing my setup from last time (of which I was pretty proud) and then reinstalling the cooler so the inlet/outlet ports are oriented up. It was a bit of a b**** to get the lines to fit, but I got them. I had to swap out the 45 degree AN fittings for some straight connectors. The good news is I can now actually install my grommets where the lines pass through the engine tin, and there's really no change the half shaft is going to interfere with anything.

So much for my shroud and ideal air flow, but air flow doesn't help if it's passing across a largely empty oil cooler with no oil in it to cool.

Here's the current orientation. @Olympic 914 Tom, I know you're concerned about airflow with the fan shroud (as am I). I'm going to see how it works. Good news is it should be pretty easy to remove if needed.
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Here's what it looked like originally:
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I'm nervous to take it for a ride again in case the seal blows, but you gotta do it, right? Boy it makes a hell of a mess when/if it happens. I'll give it a shot tomorrow. I'm pretty beat right now.
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post Jul 9 2020, 05:34 AM
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[quote name='BeatNavy' date='Jul 6 2020, 05:50 PM' post='2831526']
Tom, I know you're concerned about airflow with the fan shroud (as am I). I'm going to see how it works. Good news is it should be pretty easy to remove if needed.
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I was a TAB tech for 30 years and airflow was one of our specialties. IMO the fan shroud is going to hurt the airflow whether the fan is pushing or pulling as it will probably cause an increase in pressure resulting in a decrease in airflow and a loss of heat transfer. When I installed a cooler I had the inlet at the bottom and the outlet at the top to help avoid "trapping air". people like to think a pump will "push" the air out but if the air has to go "down hill" any significant amount it gets "trapped" instead resulting in decreased flow.
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BeatNavy   More Rear Mount Oil Cooler Questions   Jul 6 2020, 08:47 AM
rgolia   you got two weeks to get this baby on the road and...   Jul 6 2020, 09:04 AM
BeatNavy   you got two weeks to get this baby on the road an...   Jul 6 2020, 09:10 AM
Montreal914   Yes, you are trapping air in that cooler, flip it ...   Jul 6 2020, 09:10 AM
Olympic 914   Rob Not using the Setrab sandwich adapter, So I c...   Jul 6 2020, 09:36 AM
90quattrocoupe   The most interesting thing was he said the oil co...   Jul 6 2020, 01:25 PM
BeatNavy   Thanks for the input. I spend a good part of the ...   Jul 6 2020, 03:50 PM
rmdinmd   [quote name='BeatNavy' date='Jul 6 202...   Jul 9 2020, 05:34 AM
DRPHIL914   Chris Foley mounted mine when it was up there for ...   Jul 8 2020, 06:09 AM
Porschef   :popcorn: :beer3:   Jul 9 2020, 04:54 AM
BeatNavy   Hey guys, thanks for the interest and input. We h...   Jul 9 2020, 10:32 AM
maf914   I kept pulling over to the side of the road and/o...   Jul 10 2020, 03:16 PM
Bartlett 914   Glad to read you solved the oil leaks. Would you ...   Jul 9 2020, 11:03 AM
BeatNavy   Glad to read you solved the oil leaks. Would you...   Jul 9 2020, 02:16 PM
Bartlett 914   [quote name='Bartlett 914' post='2832345' date='J...   Jul 10 2020, 07:56 AM
Olympic 914   Oh I see what you did. But going through the J-tu...   Jul 10 2020, 08:22 AM
BeatNavy   And I thought it just cluttered up the engine com...   Jul 10 2020, 08:47 AM
Bartlett 914   Oh I see what you did. But going through the J-t...   Jul 10 2020, 08:50 AM
BeatNavy   Hey Mike - interesting question. I've given i...   Jul 10 2020, 04:58 PM
stownsen914   It's good advice to have the cooler oriented w...   Jul 11 2020, 06:02 AM
BeatNavy   Remember that for an oil cooler to do its job, it...   Jul 11 2020, 06:10 AM
Porschef   Might be time to take it out for a bit of thrashin...   Jul 11 2020, 03:31 PM
Dominic   Here is a picture of my set up when I first instal...   Jul 12 2020, 10:39 AM
90quattrocoupe   Anyone thought about putting a head shield on the ...   Jul 13 2020, 02:44 PM
BeatNavy   Anyone thought about putting a head shield on the...   Jul 13 2020, 03:26 PM
mepstein   Anyone thought about putting a head shield on the...   Jul 13 2020, 04:55 PM
GregAmy   Aren't the heat exchangers already a heat shie...   Jul 13 2020, 05:06 PM
Olympic 914   [quote name='mepstein' post='2833504' date='Jul 1...   Jul 13 2020, 06:28 PM
GregAmy   Do you still have the original oil cooler in place...   Jul 13 2020, 07:35 PM
GregAmy   As I understand the oil flow - At the risk of div...   Jul 14 2020, 04:57 AM
jd74914   And yet...the temperature is the same or very sim...   Jul 14 2020, 07:29 AM
GregAmy   If you really load the thing up (say 65 mph cruisi...   Jul 14 2020, 08:12 AM
BeatNavy   At the risk of diverting Rob's thread...you g...   Jul 14 2020, 07:53 AM
Olympic 914   I've even thought about taping a cooking th...   Jul 14 2020, 09:59 AM
GregAmy   I've even thought about taping a cooking t...   Jul 15 2020, 05:53 AM
MJHanna   So Im kind of lost on all the tin you are putting ...   Jul 14 2020, 06:25 AM
MJHanna   more pics   Jul 14 2020, 06:26 AM
MJHanna   last one   Jul 14 2020, 06:27 AM
GregAmy   "No issues" meaning exactly what tempera...   Jul 14 2020, 06:44 AM
GregAmy   Rob, next time I'm driving I can shoot the IR ...   Jul 14 2020, 08:13 AM
Frank S   Rob, next time I'm driving I can shoot the IR...   Jul 15 2020, 11:10 AM
GregAmy   0, 01:10 PM' post='2834051']I had expe...   Jul 15 2020, 11:30 AM
Frank S   Thanks, Frank! Yeah, my original design had ...   Jul 15 2020, 11:49 AM
GregAmy   Did a couple things today. - Attached a flexible ...   Jul 14 2020, 04:34 PM
dirk2056   What about a different approach does the horizonta...   Jul 14 2020, 07:15 PM
Olympic 914   I did this yesterday, with the thermometer and Wif...   Jul 15 2020, 07:02 AM
GregAmy   :beer2:   Jul 15 2020, 07:08 AM
GregAmy   I have several oddball things going on, like an IG...   Jul 15 2020, 11:52 AM
Frank S   I have several oddball things going on, like an I...   Jul 15 2020, 12:27 PM
GregAmy   Is it the Ignition coil cutting out or do you str...   Jul 15 2020, 12:37 PM
Frank S   [quote name='Frank S' post='2834072' date='Jul 15...   Jul 17 2020, 01:26 AM
stownsen914   Very interesting re: the temp. under the back of t...   Jul 17 2020, 05:22 AM
GregAmy   Hi Greg, would be fine with me. But I also think i...   Jul 20 2020, 10:12 AM
VaccaRabite   That's really clean. Super impressive. I nee...   Jul 15 2020, 02:33 PM
GregAmy   Thanks. I think the vast majority of my brain powe...   Jul 15 2020, 06:10 PM
Montreal914   :popcorn: on all topics :)   Jul 15 2020, 08:08 PM
dirk2056   Cooling test under car with and w/out fans, Instal...   Jul 17 2020, 03:34 PM
Krieger   220* is a good oil temperature   Jul 17 2020, 07:44 PM
BeatNavy   Just a follow up on this thread. Did about 600 mi...   Jul 20 2020, 10:50 AM


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