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Olympic 914
post Jul 15 2020, 07:00 AM
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So on the Oil Cooler thread the suggestion was made to place a thermometer under the trunk to check the temps to determine possible difference for cooling efficiency.

I don't know if anyone had done this before. So I broke this off into a new thread for future reference.

One of the Oil Cooler threads

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=347075

So yesterday I did this.

Using a Wifi endoscope taped to a magnetic tool holder with a thermometer.

Placed parallel to the Setrab oil cooler to sample the air temp without the fan blowing directly on the thermometer


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And went for a drive. My GF rode along to monitor the temps and take notes.

The outside temp was 80 rising to 85 yesterday.

Idling in the driveway the temp rose to 125, after 2 miles of two lane roads 30mph it had dropped to 120.

at 4 miles stop and go it was still 120, Oil temp 200 CHT 340

onto a two lane road for 11 miles with speeds from 30-50 mph air temp was between 118 + 120 deg Oil temp 212 CHT 322

at this point I stopped for 2 minutes to mimic sitting at a long light or in traffic.
the air temp rose to 140 deg Oil temp 210 and CHT 337

Pulled onto 4 lane and accelerated up to 70 mph. After 1/2 mile the air temp had dropped to 125deg oil temp 209 and CHT at 370.

mostly level with some slight grades.

Turned around at 23 miles

Air temp holding at 125 deg Oil temp 213 CHT 330

The battery was low on the endoscope and I had turned it off on the way back, and when I turned it back on I discovered that the duct tape had loosened and I lost my thermometer.

My setup is a 2056 9590 cam Djet. , Oil cooler is Setrab 119 fanpack 180 deg oil thermostat and 190 deg sensor for the fan. Exhaust is SS HEs and a Triad muffler.

When running in normal summer heat the fan runs constantly.

If any one else decides to do this Please add your results here.

Tom
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post Jul 15 2020, 08:11 AM
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QUOTE(Olympic 914 @ Jul 15 2020, 06:00 AM) *

So on the Oil Cooler thread the suggestion was made to place a thermometer under the trunk to check the temps to determine possible difference for cooling efficiency.

I don't know if anyone had done this before. So I broke this off into a new thread for future reference.

One of the Oil Cooler threads

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=347075

So yesterday I did this.

Using a Wifi endoscope taped to a magnetic tool holder with a thermometer.

Placed parallel to the Setrab oil cooler to sample the air temp without the fan blowing directly on the thermometer

Thanks for your practical and very useful information.


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And went for a drive. My GF rode along to monitor the temps and take notes.

The outside temp was 80 rising to 85 yesterday.

Idling in the driveway the temp rose to 125, after 2 miles of two lane roads 30mph it had dropped to 120.

at 4 miles stop and go it was still 120, Oil temp 200 CHT 340

onto a two lane road for 11 miles with speeds from 30-50 mph air temp was between 118 + 120 deg Oil temp 212 CHT 322

at this point I stopped for 2 minutes to mimic sitting at a long light or in traffic.
the air temp rose to 140 deg Oil temp 210 and CHT 337

Pulled onto 4 lane and accelerated up to 70 mph. After 1/2 mile the air temp had dropped to 125deg oil temp 209 and CHT at 370.

mostly level with some slight grades.

Turned around at 23 miles

Air temp holding at 125 deg Oil temp 213 CHT 330

The battery was low on the endoscope and I had turned it off on the way back, and when I turned it back on I discovered that the duct tape had loosened and I lost my thermometer.

My setup is a 2056 9590 cam Djet. , Oil cooler is Setrab 119 fanpack 180 deg oil thermostat and 190 deg sensor for the fan. Exhaust is SS HEs and a Triad muffler.

When running in normal summer heat the fan runs constantly.

If any one else decides to do this Please add your results here.

Tom

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QUOTE(914Toy @ Jul 15 2020, 07:11 AM) *

QUOTE(Olympic 914 @ Jul 15 2020, 06:00 AM) *

So on the Oil Cooler thread the suggestion was made to place a thermometer under the trunk to check the temps to determine possible difference for cooling efficiency.

I don't know if anyone had done this before. So I broke this off into a new thread for future reference.

One of the Oil Cooler threads

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=347075

So yesterday I did this.

Using a Wifi endoscope taped to a magnetic tool holder with a thermometer.

Placed parallel to the Setrab oil cooler to sample the air temp without the fan blowing directly on the thermometer

Thanks for your practical and very useful information.


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And went for a drive. My GF rode along to monitor the temps and take notes.

The outside temp was 80 rising to 85 yesterday.

Idling in the driveway the temp rose to 125, after 2 miles of two lane roads 30mph it had dropped to 120.

at 4 miles stop and go it was still 120, Oil temp 200 CHT 340

onto a two lane road for 11 miles with speeds from 30-50 mph air temp was between 118 + 120 deg Oil temp 212 CHT 322

at this point I stopped for 2 minutes to mimic sitting at a long light or in traffic.
the air temp rose to 140 deg Oil temp 210 and CHT 337

Pulled onto 4 lane and accelerated up to 70 mph. After 1/2 mile the air temp had dropped to 125deg oil temp 209 and CHT at 370.

mostly level with some slight grades.

Turned around at 23 miles

Air temp holding at 125 deg Oil temp 213 CHT 330

The battery was low on the endoscope and I had turned it off on the way back, and when I turned it back on I discovered that the duct tape had loosened and I lost my thermometer.

My setup is a 2056 9590 cam Djet. , Oil cooler is Setrab 119 fanpack 180 deg oil thermostat and 190 deg sensor for the fan. Exhaust is SS HEs and a Triad muffler.

When running in normal summer heat the fan runs constantly.

If any one else decides to do this Please add your results here.

Tom



Oops, I posted my reply in the middle of your comments, re "Thanks for your practical and very useful information."
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post Jul 15 2020, 10:26 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Well done great work!! I would think its much warmer when you are under the car its HOT!! any idea how hot the muffler gets?
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QUOTE(dirk2056 @ Jul 15 2020, 12:26 PM) *

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Well done great work!! I would think its much warmer when you are under the car its HOT!! any idea how hot the muffler gets?

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Great work, Tom! This is very helpful.

So with an ~80 degree temperature gradient between oil and ambient air over the HE's there has to be SOME cooling potential.

Some day I will try to replicate. And I owe you a new meat thermometer for sacrificing one for the cause (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Olympic 914   Under Trunk Temp.   Jul 15 2020, 07:00 AM
914Toy   So on the Oil Cooler thread the suggestion was ma...   Jul 15 2020, 08:11 AM
914Toy   So on the Oil Cooler thread the suggestion was m...   Jul 15 2020, 08:14 AM
dirk2056   :trophy: Well done great work!! I would th...   Jul 15 2020, 10:26 AM
BeatNavy   :trophy: Well done great work!! I would t...   Jul 15 2020, 12:49 PM
Rand   Sometimes an unexpected thread comes along that hi...   Jul 15 2020, 01:03 PM
GregAmy   This just arrived...$52 delivered. Four probe...   Jul 20 2020, 11:53 AM
DRPHIL914   This just arrived...$52 delivered. Four prob...   Jul 28 2020, 10:59 AM
Olympic 914   fan seems like it doesnt come on until about 22...   Jul 28 2020, 11:38 AM
DRPHIL914   fan seems like it doesnt come on until about 2...   Jul 28 2020, 12:04 PM
GregAmy   Ok, this morning wasn't unbearable heat, so he...   Jul 26 2020, 07:54 AM
GregAmy   Test loop: my home is 5 minutes from I-91 in Middl...   Jul 26 2020, 08:12 AM
GregAmy   Conclusions? Eh, I'm not gonna make any declar...   Jul 26 2020, 08:42 AM
BeatNavy   This is good stuff. Thanks for posting. I just f...   Jul 27 2020, 03:00 PM
GregAmy   I never got motivated to try it out later in the d...   Jul 27 2020, 04:04 PM
porschetub   I never got motivated to try it out later in the ...   Jul 28 2020, 04:40 PM
VaccaRabite   My rear mounted Setrab double with fans kept the o...   Jul 27 2020, 04:25 PM
Craigers17   That's interesting data. Nice Work! One ...   Jul 27 2020, 04:54 PM
GregAmy   ...try is removing your cooler duct and then repl...   Jul 27 2020, 05:03 PM
dakotaewing   Just to add more fuel to the fire, I know there ar...   Jul 27 2020, 07:18 PM
JmuRiz   Good info and confusing as always. I never had is...   Jul 27 2020, 08:52 PM
914sgofast2   Why not put a heat shield on top of the heat excha...   Jul 27 2020, 09:00 PM
GregAmy   Tonight's tests, removing the duct. Probe is i...   Jul 28 2020, 06:39 PM
Olympic 914   :popcorn:   Jul 28 2020, 08:13 PM
Craigers17   You win some ....you lose some....progress is neve...   Jul 29 2020, 01:38 AM
GregAmy   but I'm guessing you're now trying to opti...   Jul 29 2020, 06:25 AM
BeatNavy   Greg my duct work was a total bust as well. And I...   Jul 29 2020, 04:52 AM


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