Backdating Bumpers, Hopefully the last thread ever written on the subject |
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Backdating Bumpers, Hopefully the last thread ever written on the subject |
bigkensteele |
Nov 24 2013, 10:20 PM
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Major Member Group: Members Posts: 2,197 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Cincinnati, OH Member No.: 2,660 Region Association: South East States |
When I decided to backdate my bumpers, I wanted to have all of the answers before I started cutting stuff off and drilling holes. Using the fine search function, I was able to find all of those answers, but I had to wade through many, many threads to get them all.
With that in mind, I decided to write one up that will contain every last bit of information needed to do the job. I can’t take credit for much, if any, if any of the information below. I got most all of it from my searches, and I will try to give credit where credit is due. I apologize up front for the crappy phone pictures – while bad, they still tell the story. While there are a few of us who like the looks of the late bumper (myself included, depending on the color of the car), there is one really good reason to go with early bumpers – weight. I have seen many figures thrown about, so I decided to weigh them both, including all mounting hardware, fog lights, grills, etc. I was quite surprised at just how much heavier the later bumpers are. Front: Early – 20 pounds, included pad, dog bones, lights, grills, and hardware Late – 46 pounds, including the shocks, and hardware (non fog light bumper) Rear: Early – 18 pounds, including pad, dog bones and hardware Late – 50 pounds, including the shocks, and hardware 38 pounds vs. 96 – 58 pounds, or roughly 3% of the entire weight of the car removed from the two places you would most want to lose it! So, let’s get started. Tools required: - safety goggles (ask me how I know how much is sucks to have metal surgically removed from your eye) -3/8 ratchet, extension and a set of metric sockets - screwdrivers – both kinds - pliers - angle grinder, grinding disk and a metal cutting wheel - mig welder if you are a hack like me - left cutting (red) tin snips if you are right handed, right cutting (green) if you are left handed - center punch - step drill bit at least 5/8 - drill - spot weld cutter - hacksaw - hammer and dolly Hardware/misc. required or recommended: - (8) 8M x 1.25 x50 bolts - (8) 8M large flat washers - (8) 8M lock washers - (8) 8M nuts - primer, body color paint, sandpaper, tape, paper, etc. - early bumpers, tops, dog bones, etc. - beer (optional) I did the rear first, for no particular reason. The first order of business is to remove the bumper. This is accomplished by first disengaging the bumper sides from the retaining rails on both sides of the car. Simply pull the bumper sides away, and they will peel right out. Next, unscrew the license plate lights and disconnect the wiring. Finally, remove the two 19mm bolts located in the holes on the underside of the bumper. The bumper should now slide right off, but remember – it weighs 50 pounds, so be prepared. I removed my valence as well. Not sure if it was necessary, but it needed some dents removed and paint anyway, so what the heck, it was only a few screws. Next, you will need to crawl under the car with a 17mm socket and remove the 3 bolts holding on each shock and work the shock out. I recommend putting the bolts back in place to keep water out. Now for the fun part. You will need to remove those retaining rails from each side of the car. They are spot-welded on in 5 or 6 spots. There are a couple of ways to do this. You can use a grinder or cutting disc to grind through the welds, or you can buy yourself a spot weld cutter to drill them out. Or if you are an idiot like me, you can attempt to use a regular drill bit and drill them out, and then weld up the resulting holes. I bought a spot weld cutter before I did the front. I forgot to take pictures of the rear, but here is one of the front – same procedure for both. As far as the bodywork required to touch these areas up, I welded up the holes and ground it flat. I then taped off the area, primed it and used a rattle can of a fairly close blue that I found at Lowes. When the bumper is installed, these areas don’t show much, but they still needed to be painted. |
bigkensteele |
Nov 24 2013, 10:36 PM
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Major Member Group: Members Posts: 2,197 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Cincinnati, OH Member No.: 2,660 Region Association: South East States |
On to the front, which provides a different challenge. On the rear, the location of the holes was my main worry. The holes are the easy part up here because they are already in place (sort of). More on that later. With the front, you get to deal with not just the side retaining rails, but also the upper support on the front that requires surgery.
Of course, the first order of business again is to get the bumper off. Not surprisingly, this is very much the same thing you did in back. Pull the bumper sides out of the retaining rails. Use a 19mm socket to remove the bolts from the holes on the bottom of the bumper. You should now be able to slide the bumper off. Next we remove the shocks, but before they can be removed, the seal around the shock tube must be removed from the front panel. There are two 13mm bolts holding each one on. Remove the bolts and pry the rings and seals off. Here is one, along with the nifty block off plate and gasket that I made to seal the resulting holes where the shock tubes used to be. Open the trunk, and you will see the three 17mm bolts holding on the bumper shocks. You can now remove the shocks. Again, I put the bolts back in just to fill the holes. I think installed the above sheet metal plates to seal up the big holes in the front panel. Some folks weld in patches here, but I chose to just leave them as I am better at cutting sheet metal and bolting it in than I am at welding. Again, I removed the valence to spruce it up, and give me more room to work. |
mcbrems |
Jan 21 2021, 12:27 AM
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Ferdinand's first was Electric! Group: Members Posts: 46 Joined: 26-April 10 From: North San Diego County, CA Member No.: 11,660 Region Association: Southern California |
I think installed the above sheet metal plates to seal up the big holes in the front panel. Some folks weld in patches here, but I chose to just leave them as I am better at cutting sheet metal and bolting it in than I am at welding. A perfect fit for those shock holes is an item sold by EV West, used as a cover plate for the hole remaining in the bell housing after removing the starter from a VW/Porsche. Link here: https://www.evwest.com/catalog/product_info...dug81o4j2u54ii2 Attached thumbnail(s) |
mcbrems |
Jan 21 2021, 12:28 AM
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Ferdinand's first was Electric! Group: Members Posts: 46 Joined: 26-April 10 From: North San Diego County, CA Member No.: 11,660 Region Association: Southern California |
I think installed the above sheet metal plates to seal up the big holes in the front panel. Some folks weld in patches here, but I chose to just leave them as I am better at cutting sheet metal and bolting it in than I am at welding. A perfect fit for those shock holes is an item sold by EV West, used as a cover plate for the hole remaining in the bell housing after removing the starter from a VW/Porsche. Link here: https://www.evwest.com/catalog/product_info...dug81o4j2u54ii2 Attached image(s) |
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