Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> Did Karman save the tooling for the 914, Like the Brits did?
worn
post Mar 14 2021, 11:04 AM
Post #1


can't remember
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,193
Joined: 3-June 11
From: Madison, WI
Member No.: 13,152
Region Association: Upper MidWest



I have a Triumph TR6 and my son has an MGB. British Heritage makes all of the body panels (I had to replace about half the sheet metal on my car) and reportedly obtained the dies by tracking them down after the collapse of British Leyland. What happened to the corresponding 914 dies after production ceased?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
wysri9
post Mar 16 2021, 05:39 AM
Post #2


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 199
Joined: 23-August 13
From: Aberdeen, Scotland
Member No.: 16,291
Region Association: England



Anyone who has watched the Porsche 3 d printed piston video won’t doubt the capability of 3D printed metal. Size might be an issue for body panels...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Superhawk996
post Mar 16 2021, 06:11 AM
Post #3


914 Guru
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 5,994
Joined: 25-August 18
From: Woods of N. Idaho
Member No.: 22,428
Region Association: Galt's Gulch



QUOTE(wysri9 @ Mar 16 2021, 07:39 AM) *

Anyone who has watched the Porsche 3 d printed piston video won’t doubt the capability of 3D printed metal. Size might be an issue for body panels...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I will.

Big difference between producing a piston and a stamping die set that withstands 100 or more tons of stamping force. BTW - 100 ton is a baby press. Modern Schuler presses are the size of a small house and can produce 3,000 ton force or more.

Dies are CNC milled on machines with 12-20 foot beds. It will be a long long time before you see 3D printing on that scale and with materials able to withstand those sorts of press forces.

https://www.schulergroup.com/major/download...rmsysteme_e.pdf


The idea that 3D printers are a new idea or particularly high tech is bunk . Stereolithography dates back to 1980s. Printing 3D parts from metal is newer (late 90's - early 2000) but still omits how much work is required after the "printing" is done.

I'll add another intersting one. Bugatti titanium brake caliper.

https://www.bugatti.com/media/news/2018/wor...om-3-d-printer/

It is very impressive but . . . .

Buried from deep within the Bugatti Press Release:

"It takes a total of 45 hours to print a brake caliper. . . . . Heat treatment is carried out in a furnace where the brake caliper is exposed to an initial temperature of 700°C, falling to 100°C in the course of the process, in order to eliminate residual stress and to ensure dimensional stability. Finally, the supporting structures are removed and the component is separated from the tray. In the next production stage, the surface is smoothed in a combined mechanical, physical and chemical process which drastically improves its fatigue strength, i.e. the long-term durability of the component in later vehicle operation. Finally, the contours of functional surfaces, such as the piston contact surfaces or threads, are machined in a five-axis milling machine which takes another 11 hours to complete its work. "

So although the 3D printed parts are very cool, it's not like this process (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) out finished parts or that it will be used for affordable, high volume prodution parts any time soon.
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
worn   Did Karman save the tooling for the 914   Mar 14 2021, 11:04 AM
KSCarrera   I have a Triumph TR6 and my son has an MGB. Brit...   Mar 14 2021, 12:59 PM
wonkipop   would have been sold off as valuable scrap. might ...   Mar 15 2021, 01:24 PM
Mikey914   It's probably the bankruptcy that caused the l...   Mar 15 2021, 03:48 PM
bkrantz   Since I have no real knowledge, I can speculate ab...   Mar 15 2021, 08:46 PM
Mikey914   Since I have no real knowledge, I can speculate a...   Mar 15 2021, 10:44 PM
Mark Henry   Since I have no real knowledge, I can speculate a...   Mar 16 2021, 04:57 AM
wonkipop   Since I have no real knowledge, I can speculate ...   Mar 16 2021, 05:16 AM
Superhawk996   Since I have no real knowledge, I can speculate ...   Mar 16 2021, 06:04 AM
mgp4591   The dies were set up on a set of jackstands and ru...   Mar 15 2021, 08:54 PM
wysri9   Anyone who has watched the Porsche 3 d printed pis...   Mar 16 2021, 05:39 AM
wonkipop   Anyone who has watched the Porsche 3 d printed pi...   Mar 16 2021, 06:02 AM
Superhawk996   Anyone who has watched the Porsche 3 d printed pi...   Mar 16 2021, 06:11 AM
Mark Henry   Anyone who has watched the Porsche 3 d printed pi...   Mar 16 2021, 12:19 PM
wonkipop   Anyone who has watched the Porsche 3 d printed p...   Mar 16 2021, 07:07 PM
live free & drive   This is the panel fab technology I think you are r...   Mar 16 2021, 05:53 AM
wonkipop   This is the panel fab technology I think you are ...   Mar 16 2021, 05:59 AM
Mikey914   While possible to use direct laser sintering to ...   Mar 16 2021, 09:33 AM
buck toenges   While possible to use direct laser sintering to ...   Mar 16 2021, 12:30 PM
ClayPerrine   Transparent Aluminum. Come on Man! :) Tran...   Mar 16 2021, 02:50 PM
mrholland2   Transparent Aluminum. Come on Man! :) Tra...   Mar 18 2021, 09:20 AM
bkrantz   While possible to use direct laser sintering to ...   Mar 16 2021, 08:14 PM
wonkipop   While possible to use direct laser sintering to ...   Mar 17 2021, 01:40 AM
Mikey914   Apparently it was made in 2009. I'm getting ol...   Mar 16 2021, 08:01 PM
targa72e   BMW does mass produced 3D printing of parts for so...   Mar 21 2021, 01:14 PM
worn   This is great. I originally wondered what happene...   Mar 21 2021, 04:25 PM
Johny Blackstain   I would find the temptation of stamping new panels...   Mar 21 2021, 04:58 PM
ConeDodger   Speaking of the Heritage MG parts, I had an MGB fo...   Mar 21 2021, 09:38 PM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 26th June 2024 - 06:08 AM