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> FS: NOS Karo Ski Rack, karao ski rack
haul
post Apr 18 2021, 06:02 PM
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I ll offer it here first, as this is the right place,
will be later @ESR

for sale is a

NOS
914 ski rack,
part number 914.801.901.10,
original Box,
Karo Skihalter
Typ L3725 / 338645
98.- DM + 11% Mwst,
leather straps never buckled,

the VW-Porsche Vertriebsgesellschaft priceslist from 1973 does list this article with 105,45 incl. tax.

pics are from the uncleaned ‚out of the box‘ find!


priced at 550.- € inc. premium shipping from bavaria

if interested...pm

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post Apr 28 2021, 12:42 PM
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Dr. Phil & Wes -

Congratz on both of your NOS Karo's!

You should be able to get some split hollow tubular foam pipe insulation from a local plumbing store, to place over the cross bars to protect your boards' glazing.

You should also be able to get some long leather straps made at a local saddlry shop long enough to fit the board(s) for the vintage look, & they may also be able to make a padded leather wrap for the crossbars for old school look too (instead of the foam above), since you're going to Amelia.

I don't know if Mark's source for 914Rubber's leather straps are available in longer lengths for your boards, but it might be worth checking since he has the reddish color dye down for his ski length straps.

Also Hans/haul posted another topic for his sources for the protective rubber pads & screws elsewhere in here - if he didn't already add them to your orders. He seems like a really good & diligent vendor or seller on here so far.

Posting pix of your Karo's in action would be better appreciated in the Garage Forum, whenever you're ready! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/type.gif)

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post Apr 29 2021, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Apr 28 2021, 02:42 PM) *

Dr. Phil & Wes -

Congratz on both of your NOS Karo's!

You should be able to get some split hollow tubular foam pipe insulation from a local plumbing store, to place over the cross bars to protect your boards' glazing.

You should also be able to get some long leather straps made at a local saddlry shop long enough to fit the board(s) for the vintage look, & they may also be able to make a padded leather wrap for the crossbars for old school look too (instead of the foam above), since you're going to Amelia.

I don't know if Mark's source for 914Rubber's leather straps are available in longer lengths for your boards, but it might be worth checking since he has the reddish color dye down for his ski length straps.

Also Hans/haul posted another topic for his sources for the protective rubber pads & screws elsewhere in here - if he didn't already add them to your orders. He seems like a really good & diligent vendor or seller on here so far.

Posting pix of your Karo's in action would be better appreciated in the Garage Forum, whenever you're ready! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/type.gif)

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great advice Tom i am going to get some tubing foam for sure.
i found a source for longer straps for the surf boards, i was just thinking the same thing. Mark might be able to have some made too good points. here is a teaser pic of mine.


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post Apr 29 2021, 06:48 PM
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great advice Tom i am going to get some tubing foam for sure.
i found a source for longer straps for the surf boards, i was just thinking the same thing. Mark might be able to have some made too good points. here is a teaser pic of mine.


Sweeet!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
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Make sure to get those rubber inserts for the Windshield rack slots/holes from 914Rubber too. both Stoddard & 914Rubber sells them, & maybe SMC 7 others - all are Marks work/parts AFAIK.

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https://www.stoddard.com/91455923910.html

https://914rubber.com/ski-rack-front-plug-for-porsche-914
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914Rubber also now makes the plugs for the 2x 3 holes in the rollbar underside used for the rear racks now! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

https://914rubber.com/ski-rack-rear-plug-for-porsche-914
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It looks like you'll need to run the L & R straps from the inner to outer ski loop mounts, with them crossing in the middle.

Otherwise you'll have trouble keeping both or a single board stable & secure on them.

That foam wrap is easy to cut access holes for the straps, so that the straps will also help hold the foam in place, & secured with the straps when no board(s), but I'd still recco removing the foam & straps when parked without boards so that they don't "walk away"!

You may need to use a bike cable lock or something if you're parkig with boards on & unattended.

Back in the day I had a board surfing buddy with a 914 who had some custom board racks made up from a pair of Karos (he used the Karo windshield frame & rollbar mounting plates/brackets welded to & with new chrome or SS tubing & cleats for tie-downs).

It was pretty slick & minimal air resistance/noise without the boards.

Looking forward to some coll Amelia pix.

But you do know that we have much bigger waves out here in CA & West Coast - except during Hurricanes of course! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Apr 29 2021, 08:48 PM) *

QUOTE(DRPHIL914 @ Apr 29 2021, 08:39 AM) *

great advice Tom i am going to get some tubing foam for sure.
i found a source for longer straps for the surf boards, i was just thinking the same thing. Mark might be able to have some made too good points. here is a teaser pic of mine.


Sweeet!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-11106-1619714391_thumb.jpg)
.

Make sure to get those rubber inserts for the Windshield rack slots/holes from 914Rubber too. both Stoddard & 914Rubber sells them, & maybe SMC 7 others - all are Marks work/parts AFAIK.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.stoddard.com-10181-1618874407.1.jpg)

https://www.stoddard.com/91455923910.html

https://914rubber.com/ski-rack-front-plug-for-porsche-914
.


914Rubber also now makes the plugs for the 2x 3 holes in the rollbar underside used for the rear racks now! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

https://914rubber.com/ski-rack-rear-plug-for-porsche-914
.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

It looks like you'll need to run the L & R straps from the inner to outer ski loop mounts, with them crossing in the middle.

Otherwise you'll have trouble keeping both or a single board stable & secure on them.

That foam wrap is easy to cut access holes for the straps, so that the straps will also help hold the foam in place, & secured with the straps when no board(s), but I'd still recco removing the foam & straps when parked without boards so that they don't "walk away"!

You may need to use a bike cable lock or something if you're parkig with boards on & unattended.

Back in the day I had a board surfing buddy with a 914 who had some custom board racks made up from a pair of Karos (he used the Karo windshield frame & rollbar mounting plates/brackets welded to & with new chrome or SS tubing & cleats for tie-downs).

It was pretty slick & minimal air resistance/noise without the boards.

Looking forward to some coll Amelia pix.

But you do know that we have much bigger waves out here in CA & West Coast - except during Hurricanes of course! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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ah yes you do that’s why we have had boards designed for our type of surf - picked this up - it’s a 75 or board same as the car!!


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QUOTE(DRPHIL914 @ Apr 29 2021, 05:52 PM) *

ah yes you do that’s why we have had boards designed for our type of surf - picked this up - it’s a 75 or board same as the car!!
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That looks like a twin skeg "Swallow Tail" IIRC the name. I think it was some guys experimenting from San Juan Capistrano/Capistrano Beach (SJC/Capo Beach for the locals) who came up with it & named it.

I was into body surfing from Jr HS/HS in San Diego in the 1960s, but I had a couple of buddies who were experimenting with homemade short boards in the nascent short board movement - from the long board standard up until then. I remember one of Gordon's boards (no, not that "Gordie") with a similar concept shallow "Vee" & triple skeg (shorter skegs than yours) that he liked to use on small days at La Jolla Shores/Scripps.

But observational, buddies & a couple of not good tries on boards is my limit of board surfing know-how! LOL

However, we were doing all of the body surfing tricks now part of the competitive side, but all on our own messing around back in the 1960s-70s just seeing what we could do. We mostly had 6-8' to work with at Scripps & Huntington Beach (where I lived after college Sept 74>) - both are/were long flat beaches, so the break was pretty far out, with long runs to play around in - but had to dodge the more a-hole board guys until they finally "zoned" the beach for boards.

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As for the roll bar attaching bolts - AFAIK pretty much all of the factory/OEM & aftermarket 914 racks of all types used Allen Bolts/Screws, probably because slotted, phillips or even hex would've gotten buggered-up pretty quickly with all the on-&-off you did with the racks - plus the Allen Key prevented over torquing them.

Both of my ski & bike racks purchased from Chick Iverson Porsche+Audi in Newport Beach back in the day have Allens. I think that they were "approved" by VWoA or maybe contracted by them - since they were both sold here by Porsche+Audi dealerships' parts departments all around SoCal back in the 1970s.

Here are pix FYI of my Piper Ski & Hardt Bike racks - not as pretty as your chromed Karos - but you get the idea on the rubber pads & allen screws used with them.

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So I'm not surprised that the Karo Racks' screws/bolts are Allen.

Awaiting pix with boards &/or skis on 914s from all 3 of you! Maybe do a joint Garage Topic with pix so more 914ers on here can see them.

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haul   FS: NOS Karo Ski Rack   Apr 18 2021, 06:02 PM
haul   ..........   Apr 18 2021, 06:03 PM
haul   ..........   Apr 18 2021, 06:03 PM
haul   ..........   Apr 18 2021, 06:04 PM
haul   ..........   Apr 18 2021, 06:06 PM
wes   Pm sent   Apr 18 2021, 11:08 PM
haul   Pm sent pm replied   Apr 19 2021, 12:49 AM
haul   this rack is sold... thank you 914world ;)   Apr 19 2021, 01:32 AM
DRPHIL914   :headbang: dammmmmmm! i have been lookin...   Apr 19 2021, 05:53 AM
MM1   Yep - international hotspot . . . like @haul sa...   Apr 19 2021, 07:07 AM
DRPHIL914   Yep - international hotspot . . . like [b]@[url...   Apr 19 2021, 07:21 AM
wes   Yep - international hotspot . . . like [b]@[ur...   Apr 19 2021, 10:28 AM
Tom_T   Actually I don’t ski but I’ve always thought ...   Apr 19 2021, 11:17 AM
DRPHIL914   [quote name='MM1' post='2909169' date='Apr 19 20...   Apr 28 2021, 12:04 PM
MM1   Looking forward to seeing pics of both your cars w...   Apr 19 2021, 11:09 AM
Tom_T   Looking forward to seeing pics of both your cars ...   Apr 19 2021, 11:18 AM
wes   A but that’s a short board! Looking forwar...   Apr 19 2021, 12:22 PM
Tom_T   A but that’s a short board! [quote name='M...   Apr 19 2021, 05:20 PM
bkrantz   Looking forward to seeing pics of both your cars ...   Apr 19 2021, 08:09 PM
rgalla9146   Looking forward to seeing pics of both your cars...   Apr 19 2021, 11:50 AM
Tom_T   The period advertisment shows a very differe...   Apr 19 2021, 04:58 PM
wes   [quote name='rgalla9146' post='2909239' date='Apr...   Apr 19 2021, 07:39 PM
rgalla9146   Those ads are reminicent of printed advertisments ...   May 9 2021, 08:15 AM
haul   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#en...   Apr 20 2021, 09:03 AM
DRPHIL914   @haul [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/inde...   Apr 28 2021, 12:01 PM
Tom_T   Dr. Phil & Wes - Congratz on both of your NO...   Apr 28 2021, 12:42 PM
DRPHIL914   Dr. Phil & Wes - Congratz on both of your N...   Apr 29 2021, 10:39 AM
Tom_T   great advice Tom i am going to get some tubing fo...   Apr 29 2021, 06:48 PM
DRPHIL914   great advice Tom i am going to get some tubing f...   Apr 29 2021, 06:52 PM
Tom_T   ah yes you do that’s why we have had boards des...   May 6 2021, 10:46 AM
wes   Surprisingly fast shipping all the way from German...   Apr 30 2021, 07:51 PM
DRPHIL914   Surprisingly fast shipping all the way from Germa...   Apr 30 2021, 08:03 PM
wes   RE: FS: NOS Karo Ski Rack   Apr 30 2021, 07:52 PM
rgalla9146   Wes how many straps came with the rack ? ...   May 5 2021, 03:33 PM
DRPHIL914   looks like SS allen head screws and 8 straps with...   May 5 2021, 03:43 PM
Jett   Very cool… I think there are a few of us with th...   May 6 2021, 02:28 PM
SixerJ   Found a NOS set of Atomics few years back and a ye...   May 6 2021, 05:16 PM
DRPHIL914   Found a NOS set of Atomics few years back and a y...   May 6 2021, 07:12 PM
Crash924   Nice to see the original ski racks still floati...   May 18 2021, 05:26 PM
gereed75   There are some very cool classic/period skis out t...   May 19 2021, 09:12 AM
CCE   Any ideas on who sells or can source a ski rack th...   Nov 19 2024, 09:41 AM
gereed75   Rich Bontempi at High Performance House had a bunc...   Nov 19 2024, 11:02 AM
rgalla9146   anyone know a source for the original KARO decal ?...   Nov 19 2024, 06:54 PM


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