Repairing Engine Tin, A newbie's lesson in welding - second side |
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Repairing Engine Tin, A newbie's lesson in welding - second side |
seanpaulmc |
Feb 22 2021, 07:20 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 373 Joined: 6-December 16 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 20,649 Region Association: South East States |
I recommend all new welders to get some 50 year old thin gage sheet metal to learn with. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) How hard could it be?
In doing so, you’ll practice with voltage and wire speed, stick out, part set up, metal cleaning, contamination and porosity, work area lighting, youtube, weld grinding, fabrication, clamping, gapping, blow thru, backing materials, warping, patience and wire brushing, to name a few. What I have... How many cracks can you spot? Save your original OG engine tin they say. It's the best they say. So after a few hours... I'm not kidding anyone here with these pictures, after many days I find myself with this... I have several questions for those with at least a few hours more experience. 1) How much more, if any, should these welds be ground down? Or, will the weld beads provide future strength to the thin, stretched sheet metal so leave as-is? 2) In order of preference, what would be the best three tools to use to grind down welds on thin sheet metal? Assume you don't have an air compressor. I don't. 3) For the top section where the coil attaches on the tin, the coil bracket uses P/N: N 010 210 13 which is M 6 x 10 hex-head bolt. Is the tin supposed to have a captured nut on the backside or just thicker sheet metal in the locations that are missing on my tin (see first few pictures). 4) Should the coil mounting location be relocated in order to avoid whatever the hell happened here? If so, where? In actuality I'm quite please with the results so far, maybe not the pace of the work, but at least the product thus far. It'll be useable tin and certainly better than it was. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) This is literally the first time I have ever fabricated a patch and tried to weld anything. I'm working my way up to the easy stuff if there such a thing? I appreciate you entertaining my questions. Thanks, Sean |
seanpaulmc |
Apr 21 2021, 05:19 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 373 Joined: 6-December 16 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 20,649 Region Association: South East States |
Moving onto the other side...
This is the main top tin for the 1-2 side. It's in better shape than the 3-4 side however it's been customized to fit from the obvious deformations. It will also need some small weld repairs. Now my questions: 1. Is this the correct tin for a 2.0L engine? 2. What is the tube coming off the side next to the #2 cylinder? 3. What is the bracket for at the back by the #1 cylinder? 4. In the side view, should it curve down like this or is this "customized"? Just want to reiterate that I appreciate the feedback. It's been pivotal in getting the other side welded up and ready to be put back in service. Thank you! |
930cabman |
May 8 2021, 03:33 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,710 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
Moving onto the other side... This is the main top tin for the 1-2 side. It's in better shape than the 3-4 side however it's been customized to fit from the obvious deformations. It will also need some small weld repairs. Now my questions: 1. Is this the correct tin for a 2.0L engine? 2. What is the tube coming off the side next to the #2 cylinder? 3. What is the bracket for at the back by the #1 cylinder? 4. In the side view, should it curve down like this or is this "customized"? Just want to reiterate that I appreciate the feedback. It's been pivotal in getting the other side welded up and ready to be put back in service. Thank you! Q #1: I would say yes this would be a 2.0 #1, #2 top tin. The spark plug holes appear to be in the correct locations. 1.7 and 1.8 liter motors have the spark plug holes higher up on the tin. Q #2: I cannot help with this one Q #3: Bracket is for mounting the pressure regulator Q #4: From what I can tell the tin is bent, the correct plane should be apparent when you fit the rear (from side to side) tin. |
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