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> I had a dream, It was about a 6
DavidSweden
post May 8 2021, 10:37 AM
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I had a dream to install a 6, that was a few years back and I even got a 2,2T motor but the project didn't get off the ground, anyway as I have run out of things to do I thought I might resurrect the idea.

According to the PO the motor came out of a running car and I want to make sure that it runs before I commit to installing it.

What do I need to do to get it running?
I do not have a spare gearbox for the starter or an oil tank is there an easy way to fire it up without (or using substitutes for) these parts and what about the electrics, there is a coil but I think I need more than that?
Any help much appreciated as I know nothing about these engines.
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It looks like the motor has been opened up at some time there is a lot of sealer on the case seam behind the flywheel, do you think its been opened?

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post May 9 2021, 10:38 AM
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Agree with Mark Henrys guidance and Clays list. Definitely #1 priority: Establish that there is reasonable compression before taking things too far. These engines - after being run then stored for a long period - can have issues with valve seating being compromised. The Dempsey book touches on this, but the way it has been explained to me is as follows:

Freshly rebuilt engine is fired up and runs, carbon deposits start forming immediately on head, piston crown. Engine is stored, humidity and temperature cycles loosen the deposits over time and they fall down (because, gravity) and the exhaust valves are on the lowest point of the bore... so when the engine is exhumed from storage, turned over, fired up, etc., all those flakes of carbon seek exit through the exhaust port and CAN get stuck in the valve seat and compromise / damage the seal.

This is less likely to occur if the engine was only run for a quick check post rebuild - minimal carbon deposits - which may be the case. BUT, if compression numbers look low, you're at least in for a top end rebuild, valve seats / guides, etc.

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PS. On a positive note, its worth pursuing that -6 dream; these engines are great for -6 conversions; the 2.2 breathes much better than a 2.0 and doesn't have the thermal and load stress of a 2.7. I have one in my car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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DavidSweden   I had a dream   May 8 2021, 10:37 AM
roblav1   Definitely been opened. Looks like wrong sealant.   May 8 2021, 03:46 PM
ClayPerrine   To run the motor out of a car you will need: 1. O...   May 8 2021, 04:13 PM
infraredcalvin   Set valves Perform a leak down Rebuild carbs If al...   May 9 2021, 01:15 AM
Mark Henry   The case half sealant looks like permatex aviation...   May 9 2021, 04:47 AM
Retroracer   Agree with Mark Henrys guidance and Clays list. D...   May 9 2021, 10:38 AM
infraredcalvin   I have a somewhat dumb but relevant question.... ...   May 9 2021, 10:54 AM
Mark Henry   Numbers are useless at this point, all I'd be ...   May 9 2021, 11:47 AM
DavidSweden   Many thanks to all members for the good advice, it...   May 9 2021, 11:47 AM
Mark Henry   Yes that works, bolt it up. IIRC the 914 ones wer...   May 9 2021, 11:59 AM
Retroracer   RE: Flywheel - the asymmetric bolt pattern means i...   May 9 2021, 12:50 PM
infraredcalvin   Thanks for the responses, I was just in a similar ...   May 9 2021, 01:43 PM
DavidSweden   I have started to check over the 911T engine befor...   May 16 2021, 10:52 AM
horizontally-opposed   Unfortunately the results were worse than terrib...   May 16 2021, 11:09 AM
mepstein   Do a top end on the engine. Not crazy expensive an...   May 16 2021, 11:57 AM
flyer86d   I agree with Pete and Mark. Get the heads done, ge...   May 16 2021, 03:01 PM
rgalla9146   The engine pictured went from 1. 137 ...   May 16 2021, 03:15 PM
mepstein   Listen to Rory. Doesn’t hurt to try.   May 16 2021, 03:39 PM
horizontally-opposed   Listen to Rory. Doesn’t hurt to try. :agree:   May 16 2021, 06:11 PM
porschetub   My 2.2t engine started like that after sitting 18y...   May 16 2021, 09:35 PM
Optimusglen   There are some 2.2T heads in the classifieds right...   May 17 2021, 05:53 AM
DavidSweden   Thanks for sharing all the good advice/knowledge I...   May 23 2021, 02:05 PM
mb911   Looks like it needed some new seals anyway   May 24 2021, 06:34 AM
Retroracer   I think you did the right thing FWIW. Lots of car...   May 24 2021, 01:05 PM
mepstein   I think you did the right thing FWIW. Lots of ca...   May 24 2021, 01:56 PM
DavidSweden   After the problems I discovered with the heads, I ...   Jun 20 2021, 12:22 PM
porschetub   After the problems I discovered with the heads, I...   Jun 20 2021, 02:55 PM
mepstein   Get a quote from your machine shop and go from the...   Jun 20 2021, 03:34 PM
Retroracer   Get a quote from your machine shop and go from th...   Jun 20 2021, 08:56 PM
porschetub   Get a quote from your machine shop and go from th...   Jun 20 2021, 10:49 PM
sixnotfour   Rod Bearings have to be worse...   Jun 20 2021, 04:19 PM
Shivers   Well bummer, sorry dude. I love those little short...   Jun 20 2021, 04:45 PM
ClayPerrine   The 2.2T is a mag case, so I would consider it a d...   Jun 20 2021, 06:59 PM
DavidSweden   Bad news from the machine shop it looks like the 2...   Jul 8 2021, 11:32 AM
mepstein   I’m pretty sure I have one. I’ll check at the ...   Jul 8 2021, 12:25 PM
ClayPerrine   I have a serviceable 2.4T crankcase. The only dif...   Jul 8 2021, 12:44 PM
Mark Henry   Get the case sent to Ollie's (etc) while it...   Jul 8 2021, 02:58 PM


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