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> Blue light special from amazon, for those wanting 12V A/C system.
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post Jul 19 2021, 11:37 AM
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Hello amigos,
Just passing along my findings in hopes to help anyone looking to add air condition to their vehicle without robbing HP. I found an affordable 12 volt AC compressor on Amazon.


Here the link:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09661D1ZY/ref
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post Jul 19 2021, 02:00 PM
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The only way you could possibly get something "free" out of this is to manage the alternator charge during specific periods, by recovering energy in a different way.

For example, you could install a big-ass battery and a total discharge controller such as at the below link, allowing your battery to be deep-cycled during normal use, then design a system such that it will only high-charge the battery during off-throttle loads such as deceleration. In this manner, you maintain battery voltage to drive the car without loading it, and then use the alternator to recover that energy during off-throttle instead of wasting heat energy from the brakes. It's the same idea that "hybrid" cars use to recoer energy and get better fuel economy.

https://raceenergyperformance.com/collectio...products/tdc-30

But let's face reality here: we're talking half-century old vintage cars, used for fun and part-time pleasure, and by the time you engineer and install these systems you may want to take a step back and think to yourself "why...?"

But to each his own.

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P.S. that system is used often in our race cars to manage voltage in EFI systems when you don't want to run an alternator. Even basic EFI/ignition/pump loads will take 3-5 hp from a typical engine; I can't imagine what 45A would do.
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post Jul 19 2021, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(GregAmy @ Jul 19 2021, 04:00 PM) *

The only way you could possibly get something "free" out of this is to manage the alternator charge during specific periods, by recovering energy in a different way.

For example, you could install a big-ass battery and a total discharge controller such as at the below link, allowing your battery to be deep-cycled during normal use, then design a system such that it will only high-charge the battery during off-throttle loads such as deceleration. In this manner, you maintain battery voltage to drive the car without loading it, and then use the alternator to recover that energy during off-throttle instead of wasting heat energy from the brakes. It's the same idea that "hybrid" cars use to recoer energy and get better fuel economy.

https://raceenergyperformance.com/collectio...products/tdc-30

But let's face reality here: we're talking half-century old vintage cars, used for fun and part-time pleasure, and by the time you engineer and install these systems you may want to take a step back and think to yourself "why...?"

But to each his own.

Greg

P.S. that system is used often in our race cars to manage voltage in EFI systems when you don't want to run an alternator. Even basic EFI/ignition/pump loads will take 3-5 hp from a typical engine; I can't imagine what 45A would do.


I don't know what output is available from special 4 cyl. alternators but there are 150 amp units available for 911 engines.....is that enough to support a 45 amp draw ?
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ahycaramba   Blue light special from amazon   Jul 19 2021, 11:37 AM
ClayPerrine   Hello amigos, Just passing along my findings in ...   Jul 19 2021, 12:05 PM
DRPHIL914   Hello amigos, Just passing along my findings in...   Jul 19 2021, 12:24 PM
ClayPerrine   [quote name='ClayPerrine' post='2931859' date='Ju...   Jul 20 2021, 06:27 AM
ahycaramba   [quote name='ClayPerrine' post='2931859' date='J...   Jul 20 2021, 08:43 PM
ClayPerrine   Hi Clay, Please let us know how it all works out...   Jul 21 2021, 06:59 AM
rgalla9146   [quote name='DRPHIL914' post='2931867...   Jul 21 2021, 07:55 AM
Steve   It does list the current requirements. 10.5VDC~1...   Jul 19 2021, 12:35 PM
914Toy   Hello amigos, Just passing along my findings in ...   Jul 19 2021, 01:01 PM
GregAmy   lol...my response was going to be, 'figure out...   Jul 19 2021, 01:19 PM
Shivers   45 amps, that's a chunk. # 6 copper should do....   Jul 19 2021, 01:41 PM
914sgofast2   I took the plunge and ordered one. I will document...   Jul 19 2021, 01:55 PM
eyecolor   I took the plunge and ordered one. I will documen...   Jul 20 2021, 09:44 AM
GregAmy   The only way you could possibly get something ...   Jul 19 2021, 02:00 PM
rgalla9146   The only way you could possibly get something ...   Jul 19 2021, 02:25 PM
Steve   [quote name='GregAmy' post='2931889' date='Jul 19...   Jul 19 2021, 02:49 PM
Chris914n6   I think it would be wise to note that typically th...   Jul 19 2021, 03:40 PM
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bkrantz   How about one of these?   Jul 21 2021, 07:09 PM
ClayPerrine   How about one of these? Not too effective in th...   Jul 21 2021, 09:31 PM
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